2019 Tundra

Todd780

OverCamper
What I personally expect / wish in the Tunda 2020 is

- New 8 or 10 speed
- a new rear suspension (like Ram)
- Rear locker on all trims
- Fuel management system
- 120V outlets in the bed and in the cabin
- Full time awd, like the TLC200, as an option for people who care less about towing big stuff.
- May be a diesel too.

More suggestions and wishes accepted
I'm hoping they don't do coils / air suspension in the rear of the Tundra like the Ram 1500. That was the biggest reasons I scratched Ram half tons of my list when truck shopping.
 

bkg

Explorer
I'm hoping they don't do coils / air suspension in the rear of the Tundra like the Ram 1500. That was the biggest reasons I scratched Ram half tons of my list when truck shopping.

Just curious... why?

I almost went Cummins instead of Powerstroke and made a similar decision as you re: rear coils... but that was more to do with overall load capacity of the 3500 vs 2500 than anything.
 

Todd780

OverCamper
Just curious... why?

I almost went Cummins instead of Powerstroke and made a similar decision as you re: rear coils... but that was more to do with overall load capacity of the 3500 vs 2500 than anything.
I'd be fine with a leaf sprung Ram. Nothing to do with a Ram vs Ford type thing. From what I can see / read, leafs handle towing / hauling duties better.

I had a WJ Grand Cherokee which have coils. I loved that thing. But, it was never used to haul or tow anything.

I'm not interested in air suspension no matter which manufacturer the vehicle is from.
 

Dalko43

Explorer
Just curious... why?

I almost went Cummins instead of Powerstroke and made a similar decision as you re: rear coils... but that was more to do with overall load capacity of the 3500 vs 2500 than anything.

Air suspension doesn't belong on a 4x4 truck. The only exception would be for those pickup's that are towing heavy loads non-stop. Too much complexity and the technology is far from proven over the long run.

Coils aren't needed. Sure, they ride a little bit better. But leaf springs will handle heavy loads just as well, if not better, and are far easier to modify via the aftermarket for a specific ride/payload characteristic.
 

bkg

Explorer
Not sure I can agree with the “far from proven” technology. It’s been around for many decades on tractors/trailers. Most folks towing heavy also add for supplemental support...

I probably wouldn’t run them in a trail truck, just for risk of avoiding puncture, but for a DD? sure.
 

bkg

Explorer
Not sure I can agree with the “far from proven” technology. It’s been around for many decades on tractors/trailers. Most folks towing heavy also add for supplemental support...

I probably wouldn’t run them in a trail truck, just for risk of avoiding puncture, but for a DD? sure.
 

Todd780

OverCamper
Not sure I can agree with the “far from proven” technology. It’s been around for many decades on tractors/trailers. Most folks towing heavy also add for supplemental support...

I probably wouldn’t run them in a trail truck, just for risk of avoiding puncture, but for a DD? sure.
I wouldn't want them on a DD. Since they came out in '58 on a Buick they've been problematic. Especially in our cold climate. I see plenty of air suspension equipped cars either dragging their butts or on flatbeds being towed. I had it on a 95 Fleetwood an it gave me issues. My coworker has it on his Ram and every winter a compressor or something fails in it.
 

nickw

Adventurer
This thread is hilarious. We are on an EXPEDITION PORTAL griping about infotainment systems, 10k pound tow ratings on half ton pickups, and dated interiors where back seats in our five foot bed pickups don't recline and there's not a good place to set an iPhone. I'm going to pour a whiskey and go sit in my FJ40 in the back yard and not listen to the radio it doesn't have. Buy the truck you like. Maybe Toyota will get you on the design team for the next generation so you can make that truck the one you want to buy. Please put a good word in for lumbar massagers and cooled steering wheels. My soft office hands are tired of cab temperature directional changes.

PS, no buyer's remorse here after driving my '19 Tundra the last couple weeks.
LOL +1.

Seems funny there are a handful of guys pining for all these techno-gadgets and comfort features and the other side is pining for simple stripped down, roll up window, N/A diesel Cruiser pickup.

Although heated steering wheels are nice....
 

toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
This thread is hilarious. We are on an EXPEDITION PORTAL griping about infotainment systems, 10k pound tow ratings on half ton pickups, and dated interiors where back seats in our five foot bed pickups don't recline and there's not a good place to set an iPhone. I'm going to pour a whiskey and go sit in my FJ40 in the back yard and not listen to the radio it doesn't have. Buy the truck you like. Maybe Toyota will get you on the design team for the next generation so you can make that truck the one you want to buy. Please put a good word in for lumbar massagers and cooled steering wheels. My soft office hands are tired of cab temperature directional changes.

PS, no buyer's remorse here after driving my '19 Tundra the last couple weeks.

X100. For a bunch of touch and tumble guys that “love roughing it” in the wild, they cry way to much.
 

bkg

Explorer
I'd be fine with a leaf sprung Ram. Nothing to do with a Ram vs Ford type thing. From what I can see / read, leafs handle towing / hauling duties better.

I had a WJ Grand Cherokee which have coils. I loved that thing. But, it was never used to haul or tow anything.

I'm not interested in air suspension no matter which manufacturer the vehicle is from.

for me it came down to the load rating. Wasn't really all that concerned about the coils, but the 2500 load rating wasn't nearly as good as the 3500. Did I/do I need the full rating? Not currently, but better to have it and not need it, I guess. Ended up shying away from the RAM because of ergonomics, mostly.
 

Explorerinil

Observer
Just curious... why?

I almost went Cummins instead of Powerstroke and made a similar decision as you re: rear coils... but that was more to do with overall load capacity of the 3500 vs 2500 than anything.
FYI 3500 trucks still have rear leaf springs. I had a 14 2500 with rear coils, I was very impressed by how well it did, towed and hauled better than my 06 3500 it replaced.
 

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