Does the average person really need the 6 cyl though? The 4 cyl has great numbers, 300 hp and 300 ft lbs of torque right? That seems like plenty! Sure we would all love the 6 cylinder but LR gave us a way to get into a defender for a lot less money! I appreciate that.
2020 Defender Spy Shots....
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NOMADIC_LJ
Explorer
I wanted to like the new defender but come on, it just doesn't have the save bravado as a real defender
Todd780
OverCamper
Hopefully you're right. It could make for some good purchase prices a couple years down the road.
XJLI
Adventurer
What do I need? The ability to be a workhorse at altitude. A 4cyl won't cut it as those are peak numbers are at high rpm. It's 2 liter!
Now why is NA not getting the diesel?
XJLI
Adventurer
Its a twin turbo.
And? So what. It's 2 liter. Let's compare torque curves between the 2.0L and 5.0L
JeepColorado
Well-known member
Wow, that thing gets expensive quickly! Just played around some on the configurator on the website- a "base" model is almost $50K. You can get a base model Jeep Wrangler for under $30 and the Rubicon for about $40.
Add in the V-6 and you end up over $60K. That's for the most basic one they have- no options, no accessories.
I could get a 2020 fully loaded Rubicon for mid-$50s and throw a winch bumper, winch and lights on there for the price of this thing base.
Add in the V-6 and you end up over $60K. That's for the most basic one they have- no options, no accessories.
I could get a 2020 fully loaded Rubicon for mid-$50s and throw a winch bumper, winch and lights on there for the price of this thing base.
EricTyrrell
Expo God
Data comparison:
LR4 (Off-road mode)
Approach: 32.2
Breakover: 22.8
Departure: 26.7
Ground Clearance: 9.4
Wading Depth: 27.56
Curb weight: 5,655 lbs
Source: https://www.landroverusa.com/vehicles/lr4-7-passenger-suv/vehicle-specs.html
New Defender (Off-road mode)
Approach: 38
Breakover (90): 31
Breakover (110): 28
Departure: 40
Ground Clearance: 11.5
Wading Depth: 35.4
Curb weight (90): 4,830
Curb weight (110): 4,815 - 5,165 lbs
Source: https://www.landroverusa.com/Images/Land-Rover-Defender-Brochure-1L6632010000BUSEN01P_tcm293-716037.pdf
LR4 (Off-road mode)
Approach: 32.2
Breakover: 22.8
Departure: 26.7
Ground Clearance: 9.4
Wading Depth: 27.56
Curb weight: 5,655 lbs
Source: https://www.landroverusa.com/vehicles/lr4-7-passenger-suv/vehicle-specs.html
New Defender (Off-road mode)
Approach: 38
Breakover (90): 31
Breakover (110): 28
Departure: 40
Ground Clearance: 11.5
Wading Depth: 35.4
Curb weight (90): 4,830
Curb weight (110): 4,815 - 5,165 lbs
Source: https://www.landroverusa.com/Images/Land-Rover-Defender-Brochure-1L6632010000BUSEN01P_tcm293-716037.pdf
roanokercket
New member
I like it. The base model with the added traction and terrain goodies and tow package is 55k! Less than list on a GX460. Which would you rather have? To me this is about as close to a classic Defender as you are going to get in 2019. Plenty of power, plenty of torque, good app/dep angles, and we get a base model that people were pining for. Outfit it the way you want with aftermarket goodies and away you go! I see NOTHING to complain about here.
nickw
Adventurer
It has some very tangible benefits over the jeep such as payload and towing....pretty important to many folks here. Very similar approach and departure numbers as well.
treckin
Member
So it’s still TRS 2, but no locker options that I can find. I didn’t even see it mention the center locker.
Good approach angles and suspension travel aren’t really worth much if you’re a 1 or 2 wheel drive vehicle.
I’m not sure yet, I feel like if there’s at least a 2 locker setup this would be my next car.
If they don’t have any locker options I think I’ll pass unless ARB steps to the plate etc.
Good approach angles and suspension travel aren’t really worth much if you’re a 1 or 2 wheel drive vehicle.
I’m not sure yet, I feel like if there’s at least a 2 locker setup this would be my next car.
If they don’t have any locker options I think I’ll pass unless ARB steps to the plate etc.
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TOUGE
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On the US website it says "Electronic Active Differential with Torque Vectoring by Breaking" with the offroad package, the picture for the package has little arrows next to the rear wheels so I guess that means rear? An yes I can't find anywhere on the US website that says it comes with center diff lock. Found this "ACTIVE REAR LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL This system offers the additional benefit of more traction on corners and more grip off-road. It does so by controlling the slip between the left and right wheels on the rear axle.1
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