Also, heres something weird...
When local tire shop went to order them via the part # i gave them, told me they were discontinued, i said no way, theyve been out for ever.
Longggg story short after they spent a fair amount of time on the phone with Continental... They have replaced the older style with what they are calling the "Next Generation"
Oddly though, no one at Continental seems to know what the difference is between these and the old ones, and the tire shop spoke to 3 different people at Conti while i was there.
You can see in this pic, they look a little different, and have a little graphic pattern thing, but the tread is the same.
Time will tell..