2021 F150 Towing Capacity Increase on some models

phsycle

Adventurer
I like that color. Good looking truck.

Can you get that work space foldout desk deal on the center console in the XLT trim?
 

Grassland

Well-known member
Todd and Nat you might even spend more time than me on the builder page! Lol.

I'm waiting to see how my 3.7 tows our new trailer. Weight dry is specs at 3600# (Escape 19 with dual SLA 6v on the tongue)
Keeping in mind I'm on stock gears of 3.73 but have "34 inch" tires (really a 33) so my ratio is more like 3.50 now.

I've never been able to find a PP 2.7 locally, but it strikes me as the best compromise for me. SCAB, 3.73 with the ten speed vs my six speed, heavier axle. Still lighter truck than 5.0 or 3.5 PP and Max tow trucks.
At the very least a 3.3 or 2.7 with the actual tow package. The super 8.8 is a stout axle for light half ton duty.
 
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Deleted member 9101

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The "Super 8.8" is also in the Mustang and they beat the crap out of them with very few issues. It usually takes a supercharged 5.0 and really sticky tires to grenade one.

Also, with a little work the Ford Motorsports Mustsng LSD will work in an F150 ;-)
 

Todd780

OverCamper
@Grassland Ive never seen a 2.7PP or HDPP for sale anywhere. Except for that one here a few weeks ago. Very rare. Wouldn’t count on coming across one out in the wild unless you are incredibly lucky.
There's a couple here.... I found them on the 'search dealer inventory' option on Fords website. Of course they aren't optioned the way I'd want. So assuming I'd be looking at a factory order.

 
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nickw

Adventurer
I don’t know why the 2.7 with payload package can’t have the same payload as the 3.5/5.0 trucks when they have the same rear axles.
That's what was always confusing to me too, I am sure they have performance guidelines at full gross weight, so maybe it didn't hit those, but mechanically, it's always been the same as the others.
 

skrypj

Well-known member
I dont know exactly what comes on the 2.7 PP trucks, but Ford has 3 different frames that they put under the F150. An LD, HD and HPP. The LD is what you get if you order a 2.7 or 3.3L. The HD comes on the 5.0 and 3.5 trucks. HPP comes on the HDPP trucks. Its possible they don't equipt the 2.7 trucks with the HD frame even if you order the payload package.

The other issue is the CAFE ratings. The GVWR plays a role in the CAFE rating and Ford likely keeps them as low as they can for each configuration. My guess though, is it might just be a marketing decision to keep the 2.7 the same or lower than the 3.5/5.0 trucks.

The other issue with the 2.7 Payload package is that you CANNOT get the 36 gallon gas tank. At least according the to build and price for a supercrew 4x4. That is a deal killer for towing a travel trailer for me. I already sometimes feel like my 36 gallon tank isnt big enough on my 2014. The only way I might consider the 26 gallon tank is if it was a Powerstroke, but even then, i bet it still would not match the range of a 3.5 or 5.0 with the 36 gallon tank.
 

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