2021 Ford F250 Tremor Adventure Rig

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
I'm a professional adventure and nature photographer/writer so all of my partnerships are 100% based on me providing high-quality photography to them and exposure in the magazines/websites who publish my work. Plus, because we live in Moab, the rig gets significant exposure around town and at trailheads. I participate here simply because I enjoy sharing our adventures and reading about all the cool things others are doing with their rigs.

You're one busy guy then, with your full-time gov't job as well in Moab. Keep the excellent pics coming!
PS--Andy Biggs says hello, told me about the heckling he gave you on the streets of Moab, LOL!

I am sure you have already seen this, but just in case:
37" spare in the factory spare location.

Thx for that link, was just going to post Peter's video for Bret. I'm following Peter in taking a 37" tire and having it slightly shaved down to make sure it's 36.75" or under, to be the dedicated spare in the factory location.
37s definitely look right on a '17+.

So, help me out. How are the 17-19 trucks higher than the earlier trucks? Do they come with a taller tire? I know the 2020 trucks are lower and that is because Ford is using a shorter spring.
Carli, for example sells the same 2.5" coil spring for 05 - 20. They say it will give you 2.5" on 2005 - 2019 vehicles and then 3.5" on a 2020. If the 17 - 19s are taller, then it would seem to me the Carli 2.5 spring would lift it less than it would a 2005-2015 truck.

Since the '17-19 are already (2"?) taller from factory, then the Carli lift amount is less on the '17-19 (hence 2.5" on '17-19 vs 2020's 3.5"...although it's odd that the Carli lift doesn't measure out to be 4.5" on the 2020 to equate for the 2" factory difference).
 
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Explorerinil

Observer
You're one busy guy then, with your full-time gov't job as well in Moab. Keep the excellent pics coming!
PS--Andy Biggs says hello, told me about the heckling he gave you on the streets of Moab, LOL!



Thx for that link, was just going to post Peter's video for Bret. I'm following Peter in taking a 37" tire and having it slightly shaved down to make sure it's 36.75" or under, to be the dedicated spare in the factory location.
37s definitely look right on a '17+.



Since the '17-19 are already (2"?) taller from factory, then the Carli lift amount is less on the '17-19 (hence 2.5" on '17-19 vs 2020's 3.5"...although it's odd that the Carli lift doesn't measure out to be 4.5" on the 2020 to equate for the 2" factory difference).
CJC off-road has a video that explains carli ride height in different years of super duty, take a look at it, very informative.
 

breden487

Member
Happy to see someone else yard the bed off a new truck for s flatbed lol. I just did the same thing to my 2021. Basically same truck, 7.3 with 4.30 gears. I'm also dealing with the removal of the blind spot detection error and the camera error. What did you do for the blind spot detection?
I'll post up my build on a new thread.
 
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mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Happy to see someone else yard the bed off a new truck for s flatbed lol. I just did the same thing to my 2021. Basically same truck, 7.3 with 4.30 gears. I'm also dealing with the removal of the blind spot detection error and the camera error. What did you do for the blind spot detection?
I'll post up my build on a new thread.

BLIS can be coded out by your Ford dealer, or someone with Forscan.
 

BretEdge

Adventurer
Hey folks, lots to update on this build since my last post! I'll start with the easy one; BLIS warning lights. Took it to our local Ford dealer for an oil change and asked if they could delete the idiot lights. They flashed 'em and now they're gone. No more annoying messages every time I start the truck! Read on for lengthy descriptions of the latest mods and future plans.

Suspension

Last month the Carli Pintop 2.5" suspension lift I ordered a few months ago was installed by the talented crew at Boulder Vehicle Outfitters. I opted for the basic kit for starters, including the sway bar end links but not the torsion sway bar, radius arms or steering stabilizers. At some point in the future, likely next spring, I'll purchase and install the torsion sway bar and steering stabilizers. Too many other modifications eating up our bank account right now. I also had a set of custom Alcan leaf springs made to replace the factory set.

There's a lot of hype about the Carli kits and plenty of detractors who feel they're too "bro". I couldn't care less which camp you're in but I can tell you now, after about 4,000 miles of both on and off-road travel, it's the best suspension I've ever run. Period. I bought mine from CJC Offroad and though I'm sure I abused their willingness to answer stupid questions, their customer service remained top notch. And, nobody knows more about Carli suspension and heavy duty trucks. The Carli Pintop combined with the custom Alcan leafs create an unparalleled ride quality that is smooth and compliant on highway and eats miles and miles of washboard without ever feeling harsh or overwhelmed. Slower, flexy offroading and the rig remains equally composed. It's everything I've ever wanted from high-end suspension and this is the first time it's actually delivered. For context, I've run Old Man Emu, King, Radflo and Bilstein on prior rigs. They were all good and reliable, but none offered this level of ride quality and performance.

Lew at Alcan was awesome to work with. He gave me a tour of the shop in Grand Junction, told me exactly what data he'd need to build a set of leaf springs that would support the weight of my truck and delivered the springs ahead of time. This is the second set of Alcan springs I've bought and though they may not have the name recognition of some other brands, they're every bit as good. Highly recommend!

Camper Upgrades

While the rig was at BVO for the suspension install we had them install a Xantrex 2,000W inverter that powers both outlets in the camper and a second Maxxair fan over the bed. We've been wanting an inverter because I've gotten soft and can't eat a bagel for breakfast unless it's been properly toasted. We were going to opt for a cheap one but after listening to Matt at BVO explain why that would be a mistake, we plunked down the money for the Xantrex. Totally worth it, 100%. No regrets.

Tires and Wheels

The Toyo Open Country R/T tires (37" x 12.5 x 17) wrapped around Method 704's have also been fantastic. They do seem to be wearing a little faster than I'd hoped but performance is stellar and now that we've got around 8,000 miles on them, I can say that they're really not any louder than the factory tires. Very impressed. We've had them in dirt, sand, mud, sandstone, gravel and pavement - great performance all the way around. Snow and ice performance TBD. The Method's are exactly what I expected. They look great and are 100% reliable. Also, my tire shop tells me they're super easy to balance, evidenced by the fact that even with these large tires the ride is smooth as silk.

Auxiliary Lighting

Just today I received a big ol' box from KC HiLiTES. Inside are a whole bunch of Flex Era 4's and a set of Cyclone rock lights. Two of the FE4's are being installed as ditch lights while the rest will be mounted to the bumper with the FE4 on either end setup with a spot/flood combo beam pattern and the middle ones all spot. The bumper lights will be on a separate switch from the ditch lights. The Cyclones will go in the wheel wells for ambient lighting at camp and to help spot obstacles at night. I've got six of them and may install the other two under the hood or on the rear of the flatbed...or maybe not at all. Those will be installed within the next couple of weeks by Dixie 4x4 here in Moab.

Full-Size Spare Tire

Last, but not least, the full-sized spare dilemma. I agonized over this one for a long time, going back and forth between all the different options. I finally settled on a custom rear bumper designed and fabricated by Trailready in Prineville, Oregon. While we were in Oregon last month I stopped by the factory and met with the owners to discuss my needs. They'd just built a rear bumper for a Four Wheel Campers Ram demo truck with a Norweld flatbed tray and determined that it wouldn't be too difficult to adapt it to my F250. The bumper will replace the factory hitch, providing about 4" more ground clearance in the rear while carrying a 37" spare. It also has integrated recovery points. The design nicely follows the contours of the Norweld tray and unlike every other bumper I've seen on a flatbed, this one actually looks damn good. If all goes as planned the bumper will be on the truck before I head down to Flagstaff for Overland Expo at the end of September.

We're traveling/exploring/camping/mountain biking/hiking every weekend but two over the next 2 1/2 months. Headed to Sedona for over a week during Thanksgiving and then down to Phoenix for two weeks over Christmas. There will be lots and lots of photos and adventures to update y'all on in the near future. I'll try to keep as current as possible.

As an aside, while we were in Bend we took the opportunity to visit with the folks at Earthcruiser. Mother of God, y'all. If I had the means we'd be rolling in one of those beasts. Outstanding crew producing the most impressive overlanding machines I've ever seen. With a little planning and a lot of luck we'll pick one up when I retire in five years.

Any questions? Just ask and I'll do my best to respond within a reasonable time.

Now, for a few pics from the Oregon trip and another from last weekend in the Abajo Mountains.
 

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Klutch7

Member
I have loved following along so far. I enjoyed the article on flatbed options - good read. Looking forward to seeing the bumper/tire carrier setup. When you say you went with the Pintop Carli system, I assume you mean you got the King shock package?

Did you consider any other pop-up brand before deciding on the FWC?
 

BretEdge

Adventurer
I have loved following along so far. I enjoyed the article on flatbed options - good read. Looking forward to seeing the bumper/tire carrier setup. When you say you went with the Pintop Carli system, I assume you mean you got the King shock package?

Did you consider any other pop-up brand before deciding on the FWC?

Thanks! Glad you're enjoying our build and adventures.

Yes, the Pintop = King.

We did consider several other pop-up brands including Overland Explorer, Bison Overland Campers, Supertramp, Phoenix and Hallmark. Both OE and Bison were the main alternates but in the end we opted for FWC in large part because we're former FWC owners and...brand loyalty. Bison is a little too new and unproven, and at the time OE had very little information available about their flatbed camper, their website was worthless, the camper layout wasn't finalized, it has less storage than FWC and the fridge was too small. That said, now that there's more information about the OE HBE camper, we would probably opt for it instead of the FWC. That isn't to say we're not happy with ours because we love it. LOVE IT! But, the OE campers are built with only the very best components, they're better insulated, and now that I've seen one in person, I'm very impressed with the overall build quality. They're here to stay and I think as they ramp up production they'll start taking marketshare. That's a lot more than you asked for but, there ya have it.
 

CarolinaBlue

New member
Brett, how's it been so far sleeping with the kiddo and the dog? We are a family of four and want to go with a similar setup, but outside the scout campers with their rooftop tent, we can't find a solid option for a family of four.
 

BretEdge

Adventurer
Brett, how's it been so far sleeping with the kiddo and the dog? We are a family of four and want to go with a similar setup, but outside the scout campers with their rooftop tent, we can't find a solid option for a family of four.

Zero issues. Our son sleeps on the bed at the back of the camper (converted dinette) and we sleep in the over cab bed. The dog bounces between us. Unsure of your kids' ages but if one is young enough to sleep with you up top, the other could sleep in the dinette bed. If you really wanted more room in the cabover bed you could opt for the king bed, which is massive. We had it in our previous Raven camper but only got the queen in this one and we never even slide it out. The three of us can hang out comfortably up top without the bed slid out but it would be too small for all three to sleep.
 

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