ThundahBeagle
Well-known member
I dont know about that. The current mid-size dimensions and capacities are rivaling older GMT 400 era full size trucks. How much bigger before it is not what it is meant to be?
Just one man's opinion. It's still nice
2024 North American Ranger unveiled
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I dont know about that. The current mid-size dimensions and capacities are rivaling older GMT 400 era full size trucks. How much bigger before it is not what it is meant to be?
Just one man's opinion. It's still nice
ThundahBeagle
Well-known member
Checking out Car and Driver. They say it's all new. Interior looks new. Exterior? Looks much the same except for the nose and the fact there now is only ONE choice - full on crew cab. And you get to pay $7 thousand more for the base model than last year's. And good luck finding a base.
I've said, around here I saw some Mavs with a $15K markup. I can not imagine paying 50 grand for a base model of one of these, no sir. Same goes for Chevy, GMC, Toyota.
And to get near the same fuel economy of a V8 AFM? That's a tough bullet to bite unless your main concern is parking in the city, or keeping up with Wranglers on Jeep trails
I've said, around here I saw some Mavs with a $15K markup. I can not imagine paying 50 grand for a base model of one of these, no sir. Same goes for Chevy, GMC, Toyota.
And to get near the same fuel economy of a V8 AFM? That's a tough bullet to bite unless your main concern is parking in the city, or keeping up with Wranglers on Jeep trails
Highlander
The Strong, Silent Type
Yeah but they won't put the low rear end. It's gonna have like 3.3X something.
My issue is that none of them have a decent payload.
Honda Ridgeline has around 200lb more than any average midsize truck.
nickw
Adventurer
The cool thing is now that it's based on the Bronco there is a very high likelyhood that you can swap to some of the HD axles F&R which blows away the competition. The Bronco has options for the HD44 front and D60 rear axles, along with HD front axle shafts, which put it right up there with most 1/2T pickups, much bigger than any other mid-size rig. I know the Bronc is coil rear, but that should be an easy update, everything else should be bolt up / OEM solution.
plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
For anyone except the extreme rock crawler, what would the advantage be of all that trouble?
nickw
Adventurer
It's all bolt in stuff for the most part, so doubtful it's much trouble, I don't think anybody would argue with stronger drivetrain....Nissan (Patrol) and Toyota (LC) both used a robust overly built platform for their iconic rigs.....most modern rigs, especially ones with IFS are generally built to a much lighter duty standard.
Buddha.
Finally in expo white.
Let me know when there’s a Barbie Ranger, until then we’ll just have Barbie Jeeps.
ThundahBeagle
Well-known member
Thought I read this new Ranger could have payload of up to 1700 lbs? If that's true, that's k1500/ F150 half ton truck territory, isn't it?
ThundahBeagle
Well-known member
Wow
If they had made this with a 6’ bed then how many people would skip looking at the F150? It has an F150 powertrain now so its going to be more efficient, faster and will yank a trailer just as well. It will handle a trailer within its tow ratings close to as well.
Unless you need the space or luxury of an f150, it seems like a no brainer.
But ford couldnt allow it be to close to an F150 in terms of utility. Same goes for GM with the colorado. Kill the 6’ bed and put a ridiculously small gas tank in it and now you have a significantly less useful truck.
Toyota didnt have this issue because the Tacoma is their main seller, not the Tundra. Notice the tundra is missing a bunch of features the Tacoma has.
Unless you need the space or luxury of an f150, it seems like a no brainer.
But ford couldnt allow it be to close to an F150 in terms of utility. Same goes for GM with the colorado. Kill the 6’ bed and put a ridiculously small gas tank in it and now you have a significantly less useful truck.
Toyota didnt have this issue because the Tacoma is their main seller, not the Tundra. Notice the tundra is missing a bunch of features the Tacoma has.
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1700 would a decently optioned F150. Ive seen 4x4 Lariats without the moonroof in the 1700 lb range.
nickw
Adventurer
You'd be surprised how many F150's are less than 1500, some into the 1200's from what I've seen.
Only the most loaded trucks are under 1500. My 2014 Lariat with virtually every option down to the bed liner and wheel well liners is 1560 lbs. You would have to go back to the 12th gen and find a truck without the max tow package to find one as low as you are talking about.
Even this F150 Platinum Powerboost was over 1400 lbs. https://tfltruck.com/2021/05/71k-ford-vs-ram-comparison/
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Todd780
OverCamper
Looking good on the 'gram?
My XLT 302A has a payload of 1,777 lbs and I was being cautious of payload when I ordered it.
Skipped moonroof, skipped PowerBoost, Skipped work station, skipped fancy stereo and CoPilot assist....
I think a 157" wheelbase 501A Lariat equipped similar to mine would be around 1,700 lbs?
More if you ditched the 20's, tailgate step and FX4.
nickw
Adventurer
2021 F-150 Payload Stickers
Trucks are getting out and around. Post your/not-your 2021 payload stickers, include your trim/options. Even better if you include the window sticker as well.
www.f150gen14.com
I didn't go through the whole thread, but on the first page there are a couple in the mid 1300's....but I am pretty sure I've seen them in the high 1200's.
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Here is a max tow @ 14xx
Here is one in the 1200's:
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