255s on a daily driver?

jeffryscott

2006 Rally Course Champion: Expedition Trophy
Know this has been discussed, but just want current info in trying to figure out how 255/85/16s would affect my vehicle:

gas mileage?
highway cruising?
gearing offroad?


The 4Runner is my daily driver, with occasional weekend wheeling for now. It has factory 4.10s and currently sits on 265/70/16s.

I could buy a basically new set of 265/75/16 Dunlop MTs for about $300 from a friend, but don't want to jump on them unless the 255's don't make much sense for a daily driver.

I know I want 255s for offroad/aesthetic reasons, but don't want to kill my mileage (currently get about 18 in town).

Thanks,

Jeff
 

erin

Explorer
I didn't so much lose mileage as I did available power, w/ a 5 sp. regearing was needed to get it back. You're also not going to get the tread life like you would with an AT, but I'm sure you realize this. Although, my MT's have worn pretty good so far, about 22k and alittle over 1/2 tread left. Ride quailty was definitely better than I expected also, little more noise, but pretty smooth overall.
 

jeffryscott

2006 Rally Course Champion: Expedition Trophy
Thanks Erin, still want to try one of your tires on for size, which I know will be a mistake ...
 

flyingwil

Supporting Sponsor - Sierra Expeditions
erin said:
I didn't so much lose mileage as I did available power, w/ a 5 sp. regearing was needed to get it back. You're also not going to get the tread life like you would with an AT, but I'm sure you realize this. Although, my MT's have worn pretty good so far, about 22k and alittle over 1/2 tread left. Ride quailty was definitely better than I expected also, little more noise, but pretty smooth overall.
:iagree: I lost about 1-3mpg, and with the automatic, my cruising speed is decreased as well as I try and keep it out of third gear. (~73 MPH)

Ride quality is decreased at very slow speeds, you can feel each lug on the MT's as you come to a stop or inch forward at a walking speed or below at 35 PSI.

Do I regret it? HELL NO! I love how they handle, and act in all conditions except snow.
 

erin

Explorer
Yeah, they suck in snow, unless you can get the contact patch really spread out, low psi. And don't even mention ice..............:yikes:
 

Pskhaat

2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
But................his question is on the size right, not the tire type?

Theoretically, the 255s are ~33" vs. the 265s which are ~31.5". Looking at a ~4.5% difference in roll, I don't think that's enough to affect too much gearing and power issues?
 

erin

Explorer
I would have agreed with you also, but mine was affected pretty significantly, couldn't really use 5th gear until around 70 mph+. Now, 5th @ 45-50mph, no problem. I think with more motor, it wouldn't be nearly as noticable, being as it really isn't a large increase in size, but with under 190 HP, it was.
 

Super Doody

Explorer
I dont have any experience those size tires but here are my experiences with tires:

Some other factors to consider esp. for a DD. The bigger/heavier the more strain on your components such as your steer rack, bushings and drive train. I had a set of 265/75/16 MTR Load range D on my truck. They were heavy as hell at around 85lbs per tire/(steel)wheel combo.

I was looking to smooth out my ride and get some MPG back so I recently switched to alloy wheels and same size revo duelers (load C) . The ride is diff. smoother but only 1 to 1.5 mpg gain. I thought it would be a lot more.

I just felt like I wasted a set of good offroad tires by driving on them on the road. Its all good now since I have two set of wheels one for the street and one for the dirt.


Good Luck
 

Scott Brady

Founder
jeffryscott said:
It has factory 4.10s and currently sits on 265/70/16s.

You must regear with the automatic. Your mileage will go to the 13-14 range without regearing and OD will be all but useless. :sombrero:

But they would look cool...
 

asteffes

Explorer
Super Doody said:
I dont have any experience those size tires but here are my experiences with tires:

Some other factors to consider esp. for a DD. The bigger/heavier the more strain on your components such as your steer rack, bushings and drive train. I had a set of 265/75/16 MTR Load range D on my truck. They were heavy as hell at around 85lbs per tire/(steel)wheel combo.

I agree that the weight and heft of the tire makes a difference. I recently went from the factory P265-70-16 BFG Rugged Trail tires to LT265-75-16 BFG All Terrain TA-KOs (load range D) on factory wheels and I can feel a difference in the pep of the truck. It will still accelerate plenty fast, but it is working slightly harder all the time to make those larger, heavier tires move. I can see 255s on the borderline of requiring new gearing to remain practical for everyday driving.

Not to mention, I didn't have to lift my truck to fit 265-75s while 255-85s will require some work to fit. I really like the fact that I didn't have to make my truck less stable for my daily commute. Then again, I don't do nearly as much off-roading as most people here, so take my thoughts for what they are worth.
 
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tacollie

Glamper
I just got the 255/85 BFG mud terrains on my 02 TRD and absolutly love them. 5-speed maunal. It is a little slower off the line, but besides that the truck does fine. My gase millage at 75 is actually better due to lower rpms. Around town it is about the same. Mine are siped on the center lugs. They are amazing in the snow and are actually quieter than my 265/75 Big o Big Foot at's on the interstate. They are louder in town however(35 mph to 55mph). The ride is much smoother at anything above a crawl. My girlfriend hated riding in my truch before. She loves it now. I do live at 7500ft and have never gotten more than 16-18mpg around town and 19mpg on the highway. I personnally recommend these tires on a DD.
 

offroad_nomad

Adventurer
This is a size I've been thinking about as well since my tires will need replacing. Could someone please post the tire dimensions (height and width) in inches for these various sizes for comparison? It would help to compare to my 285 MT/Rs. Thanks.

  • 255/85/16
  • 265/75/16
  • 285/75/16
 

erin

Explorer
Offroad Nomad, the BFG MT 255's are a true 33" tire. When mine were new, they measured right at 33 3/16". This is why they tend to rub the inside corners more than others..........but nothing the judicious use of a large hammer can't fix.:sombrero:
 

oly884

Member
I've been running the Cooper Discoverer ST's for about 2 years now (255/85/R16's) and I love 'em. They are needing replacement this summer (already have 38k on them) so I'll end up getting some BFG MT's.

Yes they make your truck slower, but, it's a truck. I go 65-70 instead of 75-80 on the interstate now and it really doesn't bother me. Due to this, I can't really justify regearing at this moment, but I'll eventually go down that path, probably with ARB's front and rear too :D

As to my suggestion; I highly suggest these for a DD and a weekend warrior.
 

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