Dave Bennett
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33"s with stock gearing?
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MaverickTRD
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I say go with the 33s...people get 32s all the time, and like me can't wait til their tires wear out and they can go up a size. 32s with armor and a family full with stock gears in my 4Runner has no issues on 6% mountain grades, i've towed very small loads and like box rocket had no issues maintaining 60 or so on the mountains. I will say that the truck pretty much hates it, but gears aren't going to change that. It simply needs more power. Gears will put me in a different range of power, where it will still be sluggish. I'd rather SC the pig!
my other rig is on 35s and 4.88s. Its perfect IMO. 4.88s would be too much for daily use on 33s i think. Really screams on the highway.
I say if you have 4.10 or 4.30 and don't plan going higher than a 33 I wouldn't waste time regearing.
my other rig is on 35s and 4.88s. Its perfect IMO. 4.88s would be too much for daily use on 33s i think. Really screams on the highway.
I say if you have 4.10 or 4.30 and don't plan going higher than a 33 I wouldn't waste time regearing.
Box Rocket
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I agree with this. I don't see a need to regear unless you're tearing into diffs anyway to install a locker or something.
Thanks for all of the input, guys. I just installed the lift and shocks, today. I don't think it sits as high as I expected, because my springs, front and back, have over 300,000 miles on them. Which, now I need to order shorter rear shocks because I bought 5125 9" which is suppose to be good for 2+" lift in the rear, but they are too long. After doing it, it looks like that 33s won't fit, anyway. But, I think 32s will fit. The 31s look fine, so I think I may stick with those, until I get the springs replaced all around.
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Box Rocket
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I wouldn't use shorter shocks. the 9" shocks are what you want. As it sits the 9" shocks will probably be too short on extension. If you fully flex out the rear springs the side at full droop will probably be limited by shock. I am using the 9" OME shocks and had the same issue until I relocated my shock mounts. Now I can get the full range of travel without the shocks limiting compression or extension. If you are worried about bottoming out the shocks, I would add a taller bumpstop before running a shorter shock. Use the bumpstop to keep from bottoming out the shock.
32's will work great with the lift you have. I had 32x11.50s on my truck in the beginning and it was a good set up.
32's will work great with the lift you have. I had 32x11.50s on my truck in the beginning and it was a good set up.
montypower
Adventure Time!
Suspension lifts do NOT allow fitment of larger tires. Unless... you change the factory bump stops or limit up travel. This is the most common misconception people have. You can fit the same size tires lifted or not. Suspension lift will make it "look" like the larger tires fit "better" and will help limit rubbing on road but that's about it.
Here's a picture of a stock Tacoma with 33x10.5 R15 on factory wheels and no lift.
Box Rocket
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Yeah but that dude can't turn the wheels without digging into the firewall.
I wouldn't use shorter shocks. the 9" shocks are what you want. As it sits the 9" shocks will probably be too short on extension. If you fully flex out the rear springs the side at full droop will probably be limited by shock. I am using the 9" OME shocks and had the same issue until I relocated my shock mounts. Now I can get the full range of travel without the shocks limiting compression or extension. If you are worried about bottoming out the shocks, I would add a taller bumpstop before running a shorter shock. Use the bumpstop to keep from bottoming out the shock.
32's will work great with the lift you have. I had 32x11.50s on my truck in the beginning and it was a good set up.
The 32 look really good on your truck.
After I got the the lift all done, I noticed that the passenger side rear shock was extended only a little at ride height. So I measured it and it was only about 3" extended and the passenger side was at about 4", I believe. That's why I was thinking I needed shorter shocks. I have been running Super Springs on the the leafs to help with the weight of my bikes and trailer, so I put them back on and they lifted the rear about an inch. Now, I have about 4.25" on driver side and about 5.25" on the
passenger's side. I like the ride with the Super Springs off, but going to keep them on now for the extra lift. For some reason, the driver's side shock is extended an inch shorter than the passenger's side shock, but the driver's side only sits .25" lower than the passenger's side. I am planning on replacing the leafs with full replacement packs with 2.5" lift and ordering new CO springs for the front, which should make the truck sit higher than it is, now. But, I am ordering them after I get my tires replaced, which I will need to do soon. I have been looking into longer bumps, also. But for now, I am taking it easy trying not to hit bumps, hard. I do plan on relocating my shock mounts, as well after I get the leafs replaced. I want to get the upper mounts as high up under the bed as possible to get the most travel.
true, I have heard that they will fit, but run the risk of rubbing even without flexing.
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That looks pretty fricken sharp, kinda like it better than your current setup.
montypower
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Wrong. He had to trim the fender liner but there was no rubbing even with the suspension completely compressed. Suspension lift only helps with rubbing on road. It will rub just as bad stock as lifted when the suspension is compressed.
Box Rocket
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Milo902
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I'm amazed at the amount of people on the internets that buy into the x lift = x tire size debate. As was said a few post ago, unless you're modifying the bump stops, it doesn't matter if the truck is lifted or not, the same size tire will fit. Of course if you do lift the truck, it keeps you off the bumps more often and thus rubs less, but the compressed location is exactly the same. If you wan't to fit bigger tires, get ready to trim & bang or deal w/ the rubbing.
Do people jam bigger tires under their vehicle with the assumption that they won't fully compress the suspension? These trucks only have about 8" of travel stock up front, not exactly bottomless. I've never met a vehicle that I don't regularly find the bumpstops on, even just driving around town.
Do people jam bigger tires under their vehicle with the assumption that they won't fully compress the suspension? These trucks only have about 8" of travel stock up front, not exactly bottomless. I've never met a vehicle that I don't regularly find the bumpstops on, even just driving around town.
SIZZLE
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Your truck looks good with 31s! You can go to 32s with no modifications. You'll need wheel spacers (or new wheels) and a little front fender hammering and trimming to fit the 33s. Not a big deal to do that. My biggest regret going to 33s was the loss of stearing feel with the spacers and bigger rubber. First gens are peppy, fun little trucks to drive, and lossing feel somewhat diminished my driving enjoyment on the road. If you're going to use 33s for wheeling go for it. But you can get real far out there on 32s.
Box Rocket
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I'm not saying that just because you have x amount of lift, you can fit x tire. I also understand how the suspension works and that a tire will rub whether lifted or not. All I can say is that I put 33's on my Tacoma with stock suspension and it was totally undriveable unless I did some serious cutting and/or hammering of the firewall. I mean it wouldn't even leave the driveway. Once the mild lift was installed, the tires fit with very little rubbing and it was completely driveable and that was before any cutting or smashing of the firewall.
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I get the whole concept of once the suspension gets to the bumpstop its at the bumpstop and a 33" tire is going to contact more than a 31" tire in the same scenario. But your comments are misleading that a suspension lift doesn't help in fitting larger tires. They do. Is there still more involved that just slapping on a lift and big tires....absolutely, but I guarantee that the amount of cutting/hammering involved to fit a large tire on a truck with no lift is going to be more than it will be to fit the same tire with a lift.
Bottom line is the lift helped to fit the same tire that was not possible before the lift. Scientific facts/principles be gone. Real world application doesn't *always* align.
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I get the whole concept of once the suspension gets to the bumpstop its at the bumpstop and a 33" tire is going to contact more than a 31" tire in the same scenario. But your comments are misleading that a suspension lift doesn't help in fitting larger tires. They do. Is there still more involved that just slapping on a lift and big tires....absolutely, but I guarantee that the amount of cutting/hammering involved to fit a large tire on a truck with no lift is going to be more than it will be to fit the same tire with a lift.
Bottom line is the lift helped to fit the same tire that was not possible before the lift. Scientific facts/principles be gone. Real world application doesn't *always* align.
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