4x4 Sprinter based "VIEW" info wanted

Fueggia

Selkman
Is there any manufacturer attaching the
4x4 Sprinter based Winnebago "view type" offroad vehicle?
If so could someone please guide me to the right source?

I know these campers are not for offroad and are borderline in durability, etc.
But I am interested in this size/ storage capability with the 4x4 option.

I know of the Sprinters and Sportsmobiles etc, but they are a little too small.
Any links and or suggestions welcome.

This is a link to the basic view camper-
http://www.winnebagoind.com/products/winnebago/2009/view/


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haven

Expedition Leader
I've always been suspicious that the weight of the Winnebago Vista,
which includes a slide-out, is too much for the Sprinter's 11,000 lb
GVWR. Maybe it's not too heavy sitting on the showroom floor, but
when you add several passengers, food, water, propane and gear
the weight increases a lot. And that's before the conversion to 4x4!

There are a couple of third parties who install 4x4 conversion for
the first generation Sprinters, but be prepared for high prices!
Salem Kroger is a USA company that converts Sprinters. Others
include Sportsvans (South Africa), Iglhaut (Germany) and Achleitner
(Austria).

Achleitner has photos of 2nd generation Sprinters on its
web site, so I presume that they have a solution for this vehicle, too.

The Sprinter Vista is 24 feet long overall, so let's say the interior
length the camper is 18 feet. That's more than double the size
of most off-road oriented campers, where an 8 foot interior length
is considered spacious.

The Sprinter Vista costs about $100K. Instead, I'd recommend
buying a first-class RV like the Lazy Daze. The 27 ft Lazy Daze
costs $80K. It's sold direct from the factory in California. There
are several companies that will add a front drive axle to the Lazy
Daze, including Quigley in Pennslylvania and Salem Kroger in CA.

Chip Haven
 

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
Time for the Sprinter Defense Team to Spring into action . . . :)

Chip's right about the weight issue, especially as regards the previous generation View/Navions. The Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capcity (OCCC) was raised with the 2008 model, and is now up to 885 pounds, which still isn't good, but at least it's not overloaded from the get-go, which was pretty much the case with the T1N-based Views.

John Bendit at Upscale Automotive in Tualatin (south of Portland) Oregon has a decent business going making suspension modifications to the View/Navions; people have traveled many a mile to have the mods done. Check here for information . . .

http://sprinterstore.com/sprinter_suspension.htm.

John also does the one trouble-free 4x4 conversion for a T1N NAFTA Sprinter that I know of (has anyone actually been able to buy the mythical Salem-Kroger conversion?); it's based on the factory parts as put together by Sportsvans. Details are here:

http://sprinterstore.com/sprinter_4x4.htm

Contact John directly to see how it's going with the conversion for US-spec NCV3s.

Chip's point about the size is a good one . . . a View is a big piece of gear dimensionally, but it might still be credible in open area situations. However, the weight, a relatively-high center of gravity and the cost of the 4x4 conversion work against it as an optimum off-roader. Be nice, though, for modest snow situations and should you hit mud while fire-roading.

It's true a new View/Navion lists for over $100,000, but there have been huge discounts from many dealers over the past year or so, and the prices for lightly-used ones have been low. In any event, unless there's been a dramatic improvement (from a dealer's perspective) in just the past couple of months, don't think of a View as a $100K+ vehicle.

Chip's suggestion of a Lazy Daze is a fine one--they are a venerable manufacturer--and the conversion to 4x4 will certainly be waaay cheaper; about half the price, I'd guess. But from my own experience, I can tell you that Sprinters vs. Ford E-series vans is very much apples and oranges. The driving position, driving technique, etc. are very different, and one will definitely appeal more than the other.

FWIW, one intermediate option would be to consider the briefly imported (200 total, IIRC) Airstream Sprinter Westfalia. More room than the base van, but at just under 19 feet long, much more nimble than the Sprinter-based Class Cs. You'd need to find a used one (for probably $50-60K) and they won't appeal to everyone, but the European version (the James Cook) is an award-winning rig and for the right owner, the Westy has many strong points.
 

Fueggia

Selkman
Thank you for both your insights...
I mirror your thoughts on the possible overweight and price in the conversion of a factory View style Sprinter issue making this, for now not a good choice.
I looked at the lazy Daze and cannot get into this set up.
I do prefer the sprinter chassis over the Ford- but it is also a matter of simple
aesthetics and taste- cannot see me in a Lazy Daze.
I need to find the right set up and or move up to a Fugo / Canter based
EV. I need the space more than the "extreme off road" capabilities.
I think 4 x4 is essential but maybe not for the same reasons as many on this forum would like to have this for.
I intend to go on main, secondary and rural dirt with the occasional need to be in more remote areas. From sandy beaches to possible snow but not all the time.
Cargo space above and or below the living space is essential.
I love the Warrior based expedition vehicles- larger than the Sprinter (sportsmobiles )etc... just need a tidy, larger than a van sized go anywhere with a permanent sleeping arrangement and cargo space...at a reasonable price off course!
I will continue to research and look further into the pointers you have offered.
 

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