All Terrain Warriors campers

[Billysiron]

Great thread! Man I wish we had access to more trucks over here in the states. You guys have all the fun.
I am ordering a new 2012 crew cab and would like to do the 4x4 conversion. Does anybody know if there are any ABS sensors or roll stability sensors that are going to go crazy if bigger tires are installed? I would like to do the single wheel kit from ATW. Does anyone know what size tires are on the white crew cab that ATW did and posted a great pic of?

Thanks
Billy

 

[Billysiron]

Sorry about the double post. Won't happen again

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi Billy,

Sorry about the double post. Won't happen again

Once you are signed into the forum, you can click on the "Edit Post" tab at the bottom of any post that you've put up. Then follow the directions to delete or edit. Don't worry...took me 12 months before I worked out I could do that.

The tyres in that pic were 285 x 70R x 19.5

Are you saying that you are going to buy a 2wd FE crewcab and convert it? Cool.

 

[Ford Prefect]

I would love to get your opinion, John...

Does anyone make a locker that would fit into that rear axle? If so do you think it would make an appreciable difference in a 2wd truck? The locker would certainly be a load less than going with a full 4x4 conversion. Obviously it would do less, but I have seen guys put in just a rear locker in 2wd trucks in the past and claim it helps.

Cheers

 

[Billysiron]

Yes John. Well at first I will get it up on a front axle so that I can get those tires and single rim kit on it. Then after she rolls I can work on the transfer case and hook upnthe driveshaft.

I spoke with Mark earlier today. I will be emailing both yourself and Mark the specs on the North American version. Looks like it will either be the NPR crew cab or the NQR crew cab. Both have the same diesel engines ( larger of the two offered from Isuzu)

I have some figuring out to do though, see the NPR has a 4.555 rear end which means I could build a Dana 60 type axle with 4.56 gears. That would be close enough on off road conditions. But I have to check on the wheel size and bolt pattern. They have to be the same as the NPS 300

The other option would be the North American version NQR crew cab. That comes with a 5.125 rear end. Which means I could ( hopefully) order a front axle from of the NPS 300. That comes stock with the same 5.125. The wheels for that I am sure are the same as the NPS (19.5) 6 lug

Not sure which way to go. The motor does appear to have more power so maybe it can turn the 4.56 just fine.

I will be sending over some pics and facts on the NPR-NQR. Maybe type in the spec sheet for both and see which one would be a better fit

The end result is to get a crew cab rig that looks just like the NPS 4x4 crew cab that you lucky bastards have over there . When I saw that truck for the first time, I had knew that would be my next truck, one way or another.

Anyway, let me know what you think.

Thanks again,
Billy

 

[Billysiron]

Oh yes, boy a locker would be a treat.

Do they make one for the rears on the N series?

 

[whatcharterboat]

Do they make one for the rears on the N series? .

Does anyone make a locker that would fit into that rear axle?

Yes. The NPS comes with a rear locker and guys here in OZ fit them into NPR's.

If so do you think it would make an appreciable difference in a 2wd truck?

I have never driven one like this in anger but I would have to say that it would definitely extend your offroad capabilities BUT nothing is going to help as much as 4wd if you know what I mean.

We are very close to having a front Torsen-stlye diff for the NPS on the market.....similar to the one we make for the FG but the NPS is a bit bigger overall. Hope to have it ready by this August.

I don't know about mixing diffs up on yours (eg: Dana/Isuzu) . Maybe just go all NPS diffs if the price isn't too out of control. I've actually found most Isuzu parts to be quite reasonably priced by comparison. What did you say about a transfer??? Maybe just go with something divorced too....should be cheaper and easier. Converting a FE Crew to 4wd might be easier too. You'd probably find a second hand FG front diff easier than for a current model NPS.

We have a new NPS crew in the workshop at the moment.....Yeah, they are a nice thing. See the pics below>>>



I drove an old NPR around for years in my old job .... had a SWB FE, an FH, an FM and a Hino GT in that job too......liked all of them.

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi Billy,

I see that you sent an email to work. To avoid any confusion >>>> we just started a new salesman who will be working with Mark in ATW Accessories. His name is John too so to explain: his email is john@allterrainwarriors.com.au but that's not me. OK?? It's going to be confusing I know but John's really suited to the position. Originally from Fresno and then came over here to drive for one of the 4wd Tour companies in a Canter. Plenty of sales and off road experience etc. He'll probably be the one who'll reply to any suspension, wheels, accessories enquiries such as yours.

Regards John.

 

[whatcharterboat]

OvEx 2012

A couple of us are trying desperately to get away from the workshop for a few days to check out OvEx ...... please say hi if you see us walking around. Very keen to put a face to the guys I've been talking to for the last 4 years or so on ExPo.

Regards John

 

[1leglance]

John will you guys have shirts, hats or any way we can ID you boys?
Then again you might not want to get mobbed by all the folks who want to pick your brain about the killer builds you guys put together

 

[haven]

I think of myself as pretty well informed about goings-on in the adventure travel industry. But I sure missed this announcement:

All Terrain Warriors and Sportsmobile West have agreed to a partnership! Under the agreement, ATW will ship campers to SMB for assembly on USA-legal truck chassis. The first two chassis will be the Ford F450 and the Mitsubishi Fuso Canter.

ATW is working on an all-new camper design. The ATW web site says the new camper is different from current ATW designs, and that it will be a "super tough off-road and international tourer." The web site gives a hint of what the design will look like.

"The first unit will have an electric-lifting hinged roof, but there will be a later option of a hardtop that can be removed for shipping in a container."
http://www.allterrainwarriors.com.au/4x4-motor-homes.html

The first SMB-ATW products will be available next Spring, hopefully in time for the next Overland Expo.

Here's the press release
http://www.expeditionportal.com/vehicules/camper.html

 

[kerry]

Wiow. Interesting news there.

 

[haven]

The choice of F450 (which offers V8 with 800 ft lb of torque, and a two speed transfer case) vs Fuso Canter (4 cylinder, 295 ft lb, no low range in current model) will be interesting. The F450 chassis/cab offers the choice of a double cab, while the USA Canter is available in single cab only. If you stick to the XL work truck trim, the price of the F450 is similar to the Canter, about $49000. That price will go much higher if you upgrade to single rear wheels and a longer travel suspension.

In the Canter's defense, it will have shorter overall length for the same camper size, and will probably have a tighter turning circle. The Canter has a longer warranty, and it probably will offer a couple of mpg advantage in fuel consumption if you drive on secondary roads at lower speeds. However, there are far more Ford truck dealers than Canter dealers in North America.

 

[kerry]

Parts are probably cheaper for Ford also. Just paid $38 for an oil filter for my FG at NAPA.

 

[Deansco]

When I talked to SMB West on Friday, they said it will be the Canter or an E450 cutaway not the F450.