portal pat
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Just to give you an idea of what you can do to a Y61. This is my Aussie 4.2 TDI Patrol with portal axles, lockers, crawler gears, 35s,comp. HiMount and lotsa other cool stuff.
Americans! Dream of owning a Y61 Patrol?
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Arktikos
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I'm with you skibum. I would LOVE a Y61 outfitted similar to what these fine people had:
Looks almost identical to the Toyota FZJ80 Land Cruiser.
RMP&O
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I'm with you skibum. I would LOVE a Y61 outfitted similar to what these fine people had:
That is Espen's truck. It is actually a 3L TD not the 4.2L. Many people will tell you the 3L is a ticking time bomb but Espen proved them wrong with his adventures.
That Costa Rican Patrol is really nice, even at $30k. I have had the pleasure of driving a 2001 3L TD 4-door in Australia, a 2003 SWB 3L TD in Colombia and a 2005 4.8L gasser 4-door in Colombia. All were amazing trucks and the 4.8L felt like it had a v8 in it.
FYI, in Panama the Patrols are very common. The 4.2L TD is also very common. They are also dirt cheap compared to the rest of the world. I have seen 3-4yr old 4.2L TD Patrol pickups for sale in Panama for $20k or less. Many around the 10yr old mark can be had for $10-15k. Same trucks in Australia sell for $20k to over $50k!!
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zimm
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i hammered a 4.8 for 9 days in bolivia. from the transmission back its rather heavy duty in appearance, but the 4.8 is no v8 and gets overwhelmed with full a load. theres no top end power. the v8's at elevation were killing it. everything was killing it. i had a hard time keeping up with loaded hilux's and frontiers. the body fit and finish is 90's detroit. with 50,000 miles the seats were atrocious. i was disappointed. youre better off rebuilding an 80.
RMP&O
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Not even close to my experience with the 2005 4.8L. I did only drive it around Bogota one day but it had gobs of power and tons of down low torque. The Patrol I drove was a 5spd with 35's and he had rear geared the axles to 4.8s. No idea what you mean by body is 1990's Detroit. The one I drove was also all leather plush interior and was super comfy. I took a nap in the front seat the next day on the way to a 4wd competition out in the country, little to much Firewater the night before! I would compare the Y61 leather interior to a 100-series Cruiser. About that comfy but not quiet as posh.
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portal pat
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http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/members-rides-19/portals-40963
Make another coffee. It's over 60 pages lol.
4Rescue
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Man this is making it around to every sub-forum aye... That's awesome, although I'm so jaded now days I doubt it'll do any good, but hey, what are we gonna do, NOT try??? Nah, that's boring...
Per the 3.0L/ZD30 Patrol's: As someone who's lived in places where these trucks are prevalent (Australia) and had lots of experience working out in the bush/leading 4wd trips with them in group, there's no "myth" about the 3.0L "ZD30" Diesel engines to be busted... they are, quite often, "ticking time bombs" and with the Auto-tranny behind them, doubly so.
I've not only seen it up close and personal but I've had to deal with the consequences of the failures out in the middle of the bush in 125*F heat when my own and others trucks, many of which had LOTS of aftermarket "hop up" gear on them (some TD42 Patrols were pushing BIG power, my own 1HZ75 Ute had an aftermarket Turbo and we were all loaded down for multi-day/night trips) and none of us had much more then a little heat soak when sitting in 4wd working through slow terrain or whinching. The ZD30 is simply not an engine I trust. I kind of wonder if part of it is down to the same issues the Toyota 1KZ-TE has from the factory: They're tuned them for the lowest possible NOx emissions, meaning the timing gets retarded and fueling get's upped at the IP leading to overheating, poor econ/power and more smoke/soot and eventually all sorts of problems. Either way there are still heaps of other issues with the engines architecture and when you've seen the failure rate I have up close and personal (constant "limp mode" engagement with no way to correct the issue that we could find, multiple turbo failures, snapped/broken cam's and a crank-shaft, lunched Auto boxes, a window-pane'd block at one point, HG failures L/R...), it's shocking, and def. NOT what I'm used to with Nissan's in general.
Still, I do love Patrols, the 260 series and the later Utes (like the portal'd monster linked above :drool: ) are just plain awesome... I'd just take mine in the 4.2L TD/Manual trans. flavor (I know shocking right). Like all rigs, there are the ones you want and the ones you avoid. The ZD30 powered trucks are, for me, a big "avoid".
Cheers
Dave
Per the 3.0L/ZD30 Patrol's: As someone who's lived in places where these trucks are prevalent (Australia) and had lots of experience working out in the bush/leading 4wd trips with them in group, there's no "myth" about the 3.0L "ZD30" Diesel engines to be busted... they are, quite often, "ticking time bombs" and with the Auto-tranny behind them, doubly so.
I've not only seen it up close and personal but I've had to deal with the consequences of the failures out in the middle of the bush in 125*F heat when my own and others trucks, many of which had LOTS of aftermarket "hop up" gear on them (some TD42 Patrols were pushing BIG power, my own 1HZ75 Ute had an aftermarket Turbo and we were all loaded down for multi-day/night trips) and none of us had much more then a little heat soak when sitting in 4wd working through slow terrain or whinching. The ZD30 is simply not an engine I trust. I kind of wonder if part of it is down to the same issues the Toyota 1KZ-TE has from the factory: They're tuned them for the lowest possible NOx emissions, meaning the timing gets retarded and fueling get's upped at the IP leading to overheating, poor econ/power and more smoke/soot and eventually all sorts of problems. Either way there are still heaps of other issues with the engines architecture and when you've seen the failure rate I have up close and personal (constant "limp mode" engagement with no way to correct the issue that we could find, multiple turbo failures, snapped/broken cam's and a crank-shaft, lunched Auto boxes, a window-pane'd block at one point, HG failures L/R...), it's shocking, and def. NOT what I'm used to with Nissan's in general.
Still, I do love Patrols, the 260 series and the later Utes (like the portal'd monster linked above :drool: ) are just plain awesome... I'd just take mine in the 4.2L TD/Manual trans. flavor (I know shocking right). Like all rigs, there are the ones you want and the ones you avoid. The ZD30 powered trucks are, for me, a big "avoid".
Cheers
Dave
zimm
Expedition Leader
i had 9 days, not one, on road, offroad, high speed demands.
the body couldnt handle the dust. by day 2 of 9 days there wasnt a door that didnt squeek atrociously on a bump, and bolivia is all bumps. my lexus leather is still intact after 180,000 miles, without a single cleaning or wax. there is NO way the patrol is going to last long from appearance.
it was a 5 speed with stock gearing and stock tires. 5th was useless at elevation and passing with the hilux's and nissan V6 US spec frontier, required 3rd. i'd compare it to the 90's fzj80 6. it does have torque low in the rpms, but it is by no means gobbs, and it aspirates up high in the rpm band, unlike a v8. if there was ever a truck that needed a chevy crate motor, this is it. the axles look beefy enough to handle a v8 with a blower.
seating position sorta blows too, if youre tall. its like a bigger 4 runner. i prefer the upright seating in the LC, but thats just preference.
believe me, going in, i WANTED to love that truck. i negotiated out of a hilux to get it. i was giddy. by the end, i couldnt wait to get out of it.
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Just to give you an idea of what you can do to a Y61. This is my Aussie 4.2 TDI Patrol with portal axles, lockers, crawler gears, 35s,comp. HiMount and lotsa other cool stuff.
Sorry I cant resist, put a prius will do that too.
RMP&O
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Doesn't sound like you were driving the 4.8L and Bogota is not exactly low elevation. Maybe not as high as Bolivia but still. And it shouldn't matter anyways as it is a fully computer controlled engine that will adjust for altitude. Sounds more like you were driving a TB42 or TD42 N/A or even an SD33 N/A not the 4.8L.
And my experiences differ greatly from yours. Not saying Toyota doesn't/didn't make a solid truck in the Cruisers but the Patrol from my experience is just as good if not better in some areas. In particular the Y61 compared to the 100-series.
I drove a Hilux for 5-days on Fraser Island in Australia. It was a mid-90's with a TD. I liked it but it was nowhere near Cruiser build quality or Patrol build quality. Bit gutless in the sand too. And it rattled, granted it was a 4wd rental that was 15yrs old but still it rattled.
Oh and I like them so much, I nearly bought this the other day.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/nissan/auction-772496060.htm
That is $5500usd and it is over 25yrs old so legal to import. Sure a bit high mile but has a completely rebuilt trans recently. Sure it is a non-turbo slug but a turbo will wake it right up. Sure it is stock with no lift but that is easy to cure. It is not a Y61 and it is a bit old but is in mint condition and ready to upgrade. Plus all the Y61 stuff can be used to upgrade that truck, ie steering box, front axle, ect ect.
Cheers