Any 12V power packs like this in the US?

ntsqd

Heretic Car Camper
Happened to be at a West Marine today so I had a look at the boxes on display. They're not rock solid, only bendable by Thor himself, but they're pretty decent. I'd buy one for the stated use if I had such a need.

Just dump the included strap and find something serious.
 

Cabrito

I come in Peace
Those are all real nice examples and I would not mind having one like the Luna. Price always stops me on those.
How much power do you need? What kind of stuff are you going to run off of it?
I have been using one of those cheap power packs for jumping a car battery for years with great results. It has a nice little meter in the front to check the charge.
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I just replaced the battery in mine this week and modified the box with Anderson Power Poles so I can easily connect my Amateur radios with it. (work in progress) I also got rid of the cheesy air compressor that was in it.
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I have used it for many things like Satellite radio, MP3 player, HAM radio, AUX flood light off the back of the truck, all with the cig lighter input.
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Plus I've jumped many many cars with dead batteries. It's small and fits in either vehicle.

Replacement battery was 12v 18ah for $34. Still need to test it jumping a car with the new battery.

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greg mgm

Explorer
That's a very good idea Cabrito.
For the uses you mentioned, that portable battery pack should fit the bill.

I borrowed my friends battery pack twice and it worked great.

Is the hole in the back of yours where the air compressor was? If so,
no wonder you removed it!
 

Cabrito

I come in Peace
Yes the hole is where the air pressure gauge was. I still have to fill the hole with some sort of cover. I am mounting the compressor in my garage hooked up to a small battery to fill bicycle tires.


That's a very good idea Cabrito.
For the uses you mentioned, that portable battery pack should fit the bill.

I borrowed my friends battery pack twice and it worked great.

Is the hole in the back of yours where the air compressor was? If so,
no wonder you removed it!
 

Superu

Explorer
A jump pack does not have enough long term power for what I need, so I'm thinking of starting with one of these since it has a charge indicator, battery connect posts and 12V plug already installed:

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adding one of these:

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and wiring it up as needed with a 6m run of cabling with anderson plugs on either end.

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My primary use for this will be to sit next to my Engel MT45 for extended outings without worrying about killing my starting battery. I'll be putting an Optima Dual Purpose in the box and will top it off as needed with my Sunsei solar panel which worked very well last season.

The plus to this setup will be ease of use in multiple vehicles, quick connect/disconnect, flexibility in location of battery and the ability to keep it charged up while underway.

Any thoughts or tips on wiring this up?

My initial thought is to run a pair of 4ga wires from the battery to the back of the vehicle, terminate with the female Anderson plug, add a male Anderson to the battery box and add the ACR and an inline fuse under the lid of the box.
 
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ThomD

Explorer
I'm interested in whatever solution you can come up with. This merges nicely with the discussion about fridges in bear country. With a "portable" battery, I can put the fridge and the battery in the bear box and Bob's your uncle.
 

ThomD

Explorer
As far as the wiring, if you do not plan to use the battery to jump your engine, that is to say that the connection from the engine to the BBox is only to function as a trickle charger, I would think that the wiring would not need to be very heavy. There have been discussions about just using existing cig lighter plugs (where they exist).
 

spencyg

This Space For Rent
The only time I would reduce the wire size less than that rated for the available charging current from your alternator is if you had some serious heat-sink-laden resistors to slow down current flow. Just assuming a smaller charging wire gauge will be ok if you're using small amounts of current off the battery is false, as the battery will want to draw as much current as is available if discharged any appriciable amount.

Spence
 

teotwaki

Excelsior!
I'm interested in whatever solution you can come up with. This merges nicely with the discussion about fridges in bear country. With a "portable" battery, I can put the fridge and the battery in the bear box and Bob's your uncle.

Dang. Bob is pretty smart! That is a great combination.
 

Cabrito

I come in Peace
A jump pack does have enough long term power for what I need,

My primary use for this will be to sit next to my Engel MT45 for extended outings without worrying about killing my starting battery.

That's for sure.
 

kmroxo

Observer
I'm interested in whatever solution you can come up with. This merges nicely with the discussion about fridges in bear country. With a "portable" battery, I can put the fridge and the battery in the bear box and Bob's your uncle.

I was thinking the same thing. You could run the wires inside the car to keep it charged. Since the Minn Kota says it has two 12 volt sockets it could also attach the a mini fridge powering that while being charged and then like you said, the whole thing can be moved in to the bear box at night. Though the simplicity of National Luna Portable Power Pack looks excellent.
 
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Superu

Explorer
Any reason an not to use an Optima AGM Yellow Top in the National Luna box and leave the stock battery for starting? Since the National Luna PPP has an isolator, I would think this would be fine. Thoughts?
 

saburai

Explorer
Any reason an not to use an Optima AGM Yellow Top in the National Luna box and leave the stock battery for starting? Since the National Luna PPP has an isolator, I would think this would be fine. Thoughts?


I want to be able to combine them for a high draw event like winching...
 

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