bossman429
Adventurer
Thanks all. Van is ordered. Hopefully it comes in before beach season is over!
i cant find the reference now, but i read somewhere that the 1st gear in the 10 spd transit tranny is as low or lower than sprinter 4x4 with the low range (which is highest gear ratio low range ever produced). transit can and will put 50/50 front to rear. sprinter is 70r/30f give or take (think 69/31 is real number). where sprinter wins is from the factory ground clearance and approach/departure angles. that will all change when the 4x4 sprinter (really a selectable AWD anyway) goes away mid 2021 and replaced with 4matic AWD whether it gets better or worse
transit eco boost is winning on torque numbers though--now im just messing with you. Farfrumwork takes his sprinter where most will never go, and a transit probably wont go because of front overhangNot quite as low per my maths, Blotz (someone could correct me though)
5pd 4x4 Sprinter with 'low' range has an overall gearing of 20:1 in 1st (first gear w/o low is 14:1)
The 10spd awd ecoboost transit has an overall gearing of 17.5:1 in 1st
^^ both with stock tires
But close.
Lower would be better, especially when bigger tires are fitted, but the Sprinter low does pretty well where I've taken it.
i cant find the reference now, but i read somewhere that the 1st gear in the 10 spd transit tranny is as low or lower than sprinter 4x4 with the low range (which is highest gear ratio low range ever produced). transit can and will put 50/50 front to rear. sprinter is 70r/30f give or take (think 69/31 is real number). where sprinter wins is from the factory ground clearance and approach/departure angles. that will all change when the 4x4 sprinter (really a selectable AWD anyway) goes away mid 2021 and replaced with 4matic AWD whether it gets better or worse
I got hung up on a rock that snagged one of my rear shocks brackets.
So many of you don't know that yet but we have bought a Ford Transit 2020 AWD HR with Ecoboost as an Expedition Portal project. And yes it came Expo White.
Now I’ve figured out who you guys are on the Transit forum, I’ll chime in here and say it’s good to hear another person NOT complain about the OEM VanContacts (not Vanco’s). I’ve been happy in the snow and dirt with them, and even in sand, long stretches in the Mojave but not very deep and often in just one track of two-track. On our recent desert trip, we had one steep, rutted hill with a little rock step at the top. After much hemming and hawing, we watched a Sprinter AWD with KO2’s, big lift etc make it up, so we went for it. Piece of cake. And my wife said I just crawled up with no wheel spin, while the Sprinter did spin and slide a bit, though that may have been due to my skillful driving ?. This was with my OEM Conti’s and my van is a 2020 Transit AWD.
I will say that a few hundred yards after the crest I got hung up on a rock that snagged one of my rear shocks brackets. On the rest of this section of trail (which was open and legal but not even shown on the Mojave maps) ground clearance was much more of an issue than traction. I’ll invest in skids and the shock bracket relocation kit before buying new tires, though of course I realize bigger tires will help clearance too.
It is really nice to be able to switch mode while driving at 70 mph and the conditions change from dry to snowy/slippery. I believe this is not something you can do on the Sprinter, and it's a use case that would be much more common for the overall population that going off road with a giant van.
This is a big distinction, and you are correct - the Sprinter requires you to basically stop to engage 4x4. Even my 30yr old Syncro could shift into 4x4 on the fly (with a decoupler). It's kind of annoying, but we just throw it into 4x if there is even a chance of snowy roads. There is no real penalty for using it (no noticeable mpg hit, or change to driving characteristics).
If you're 'off-road' it isn't as big a deal as you're traveling slow anyhow. And I usually have it in 4x4 anyway in those situations, and just select 'Low' when necessary.
Gratuitous high country Crested Butte shot (to add CO content for coguzzi)
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(sorry, no info around transit sand abilities - ha)