Baja Taco's Tacoma Camper

Super Doody

Explorer
Chris,

I hope you dont mind me starting this as post as oppose to a PM. :D Just thought others would maybe have the same questions.

Your website shows the camper in great detail but I just had some additions questions.

How much does the entire wood plate form weigh?

Where do you store bulky items such as pots, pans and store? Or do you have backpacking cooking equipment? What about food items before you got your fridge :D

Is there anything you would change about your camper sleeping/storage plate form?

RTT is very popular idea here (and for good reason) but your camper is very functional yet mininal. I always strive to keep things simple. :D

Thanks,

Jim
 

StumpXJ

SE Expedition Society
well... I just typed this BIG reply, tried to post it and then POOF it was gone... I will try again.

I am obviously not Chris, but I just finished my truck camper this weekend, and it is VERY similar to Chris's set-up. My Wife and I live in eurpoe (Germany to be exact, with the US government) and love to go camping and offroad Alpine trail exploring in Austia, Switzerland, and France. I grew very tired of setting up and tearing down a tent after a nights worth of camping only to have to do it again somewhere else for the next night. I stumbled accross Chris's website and immediately knew that i wanted my truck exactly as he has his set-up.

I weighed all of my wood prior to installing it (yes im anal like that) and it came out right at 90 pounds. I used 1/2 inch OSB for the decking, and 1"x10" planking for the vertical support peices. I would say when adding in the aluminum angle I used to trim out the storage comparments, hinges, support rods, carpet, and screws (lots of screws) it probably weighs in at a total of 100 pounds give or take 3 pounds. I also just placed my vertical peices right on top of the OEM thick rubber bed mat, instead of using carpet. It was really rugged, easy to keep clean/dry and it was already there...

In the pictures, you can see that my little portable coleman gas grill/griddle fits very nicely in the forward storage compartments, I also have pots, pans, untencils, cups, plates, and cooking supplies that are kept in a plastic storage bins like where Chris kept his water bottles during his Baja trip. If its layed out well, there is a huge amount of storage potential and still keeping everything secured.

While I cant justify a pricey Engel fridge or similar, I did pick up a Coleman 12 volt 40 quart "Power Chill" cooler, and hard wired it with a switch into the extended cab portion of my truck, in the same place Chris installed his fridge. I have no need for an actual fridge, like the engel, as the places I travel do not get into Baja temps. The Power Chill actually works extremely well, and it fits perfectly behind the seats. Its large enough for a weeks worth of food for my wife and I easily. Its an option you might want to consider, if the temps are not too extreme where you are, and at $75 bucks, its hard to beat.

I am installing internal lighting this weekend, along with a permantly mounted 12 volt oscilating fan, and I also will be tending to some leakage issues presnted by the 8 year old ARE camper shell, just needs some new rubber seals...(I sure wish my side windows opened like his!!)

I also mentioned this to Chris in an email, On a side note, my Wife INSISTED on springing for the 4" Serta Memory Foam Mattress instead of regular foam, there were no complaints from me....

Hope this helps~ James Clegg ( ovalexpress@netscape.net )


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Super Doody

Explorer
Stumptaco. Thank for your reply and the pics. You have a very nice set up. We loved to hear about your travels in EU.


I was going back and fourth with the roof top camper idea. There lots of pros and cons but after sleeping a cot in the bed with a camper, it worked out really well. I was complete shelter from the elements. No condensate, no wind, no water. That first day we weather through 2 baja storms.

Anyways, I'm going with a camper/sleep platform but I want to make a modular unit for easy removal because my truck is a daily driver. I threw some ideas around last night. I will sketch up something basic for options because I minimal experience with wood working.

I've also thrown the idea of making the basic structure out of small tube or angle iron. The structure would be two halves and would bolt together. The ply wood sleeping platfrom would bolt on top. Just need to get get a welder.:camping: :D
 

StumpXJ

SE Expedition Society
Thanks for the compliments.

Yeah, ive seen pics of your cot/snugtop set-up in another thread... that works just as well! I also thought about building this thing to be able to remove it, as its also my daily driver. But really couldnt come up with enough reasons why it shouldnt be permanent, to justify the extra fabrication to make it removable and still fully functional....Itll come out, but its gonna be basically destroyed to do it.

I know what you mean about the welder... I just got mine in and I have about 9,000 projects lined up for it. Right now im building my roof rack and rear bumper/spare tire tailgate for it, all thanks to Chris's website for motivation. My Wife saw the site and said..."Wow, you should do some of that to your truck so we can be better prepared for our trips"... after picking myself up off of the floor, I ordered a nice little mig welder from Miller. Trying to get all this crap done before the spring.

Dont want to clog up your thread, but here are a few pics from My last trip to Austria, on the way to the Stubaier Galcier for some early season skiing in November.

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BajaTaco

Swashbuckler
Jim, this is a fun thread :)

James, I'm very glad to see you posting your cool new setup here. It turned out really nice!

Jim, to address your questions, I haven't weighed the materials that make up my cargo platform. I used plywood for the deck itself, so James' figure of 90 lbs sounds maybe a little heavier than I recall mine "feeling" but it's hard to say. I would think it is definitely sub-100 lbs. anyway.

I store bulky items on top of the deck, and that is unfortunately a "trade-off" when two people are on a trip. This is because at night, when it is time to use the mattress for sleeping, the bulky stuff has to come out and be stowed. There are a few ways to do this depending on the weather. Usually, for fair-weather camping, I just set them on a small tarp on the ground next to the vehicle. If we don't have much with us, or anything that we don't want outside, we just set it on the front seats. It's not too big of a deal, but a trade-off nonetheless. It's not a problem at all when I am solo becaue I can keep things to one side of the camper and have 1/2 to 2/3 of the width for sleeping. The "bulky" stuff consists of a wash-water jug, crate full of gear, clothing duffles or packs, kitchen bag, and a dry food box.

Pots and pans are stored in the small kitchen bag. A lot of the kitchen stuff (stove, bowls, mugs, utensiles, kinives, etc etc.) are stored in the pull-out drawer below the cargo deck which makes them really easy to access. Yes, I use a dual-fuel backpack stove. It runs great on unleaded after the white gas is gone.

Before I had the fridge, I used either one or two coolers behind the seats for food storage. (one or both were for dry storage (no ice) depending on ice availability).

"I was complete shelter from the elements. No condensate, no wind, no water. That first day we weather through 2 baja storms. "

That statement you made just about sums up the pros for this setup. I am a light sleeper and having the ready-made solid shelter makes for a great night's sleep for me. Roof top tents are a fantastic solution though, because they can be deployed and stowed without interrupting your cargo area. So I would say those are the two main factors to consider when deciding between the two. One is soft-sided, one is hard-sided. Both are "low-profile" solutions.

Would I do anything different? There is not a simple answer from me... I am really satisfied with this setup and it has served me well for countless trips over the last 7 years. For fair-weather camping, I would not change it.

I will cite two compromises of note:

1. By itself, it is not a good solution for bad weather of any duration. Simply because we are restricted to laying inside the camper until the storm passes, or if we want to sit/stand, we have to set up a tarp shelter (not such a big deal I guess). For a few hours it's not that bad, and of course if it is night-time and you are sleeping anyway, it's great. So I would like to come up with a quick-deploy rain shelter that is positioned off the back of the truck. Currently, I can use a tarp with poles and guy-lines, but I wouldn't mind something faster to set up and take down.

2. Removing items when two people sleep in the back. This is something I just deal with, as I don't know that there is really any good solution other than what I have. Any other ideas I have come up with for this would defeat the purpose of the current configuration and just substitute one compromise for another.

For reference, here are a few pics:

In this photo, you can see my setup in "solo" mode. There is room for me and the cargo. The white drawer with clear plastic face is the kitchen drawer that I mentioned earlier.

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And here you can see it in "deluxe" mode, for two people:

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Sometimes if I want to keep the removable cargo items in a little more "secure" type of area outside of the truck, I will use a "quick-draw" cabana that just flips open (no setup), which is seen in this photo. It stores flat in a nylon bag like a sunshade for a car windshield.

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My camper article is here.
 

Ursidae69

Traveller
BajaTaco said:
I will cite two compromises of note:

1. By itself, it is not a good solution for bad weather of any duration. Simply because we are restricted to laying inside the camper until the storm passes, or if we want to sit/stand, we have to set up a tarp shelter (not such a big deal I guess). For a few hours it's not that bad, and of course if it is night-time and you are sleeping anyway, it's great. So I would like to come up with a quick-deploy rain shelter that is positioned off the back of the truck. Currently, I can use a tarp with poles and guy-lines, but I wouldn't mind something faster to set up and take down.

2. Removing items when two people sleep in the back. This is something I just deal with, as I don't know that there is really any good solution other than what I have. Any other ideas I have come up with for this would defeat the purpose of the current configuration and just substitute one compromise for another.

I have the same compromises, but so far they have been manageable, but I have yet to camp with extended bad weather, but even the RTT would be a bummer in extended bad weather.
 

p1michaud

Expedition Leader
Tacoma Camper

Camper sleeping solution. I've used the same set up for camping for a few years now(see pics below).
My main issues are:
1- Lack of head room.
2-Accessing items at the very end of the compartments (i.e. towards the front of the truck). I've made a simple tool an old broom handle with a hook at the end to reach things without having to climb into the camper.
3-For two people camping, I think that 5' 10" is about the max height for this set up IMO.


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BajaTaco said:
In this photo, you can see my setup in "solo" mode.

Chris,
Out of curriosity, how tall are you? I essentially have the same set up as you (inspired by you!) and was wondering how tall you are. I'm 5' 10" and can't typically sleep with the rear door open due to weather and bugs. I don't have much room lenght wise with this set up. I'm considering going to a RTT for more room especially since most of my camping trips are not solo. My wife likes camping more than I do!

Cheers :beer:,
P
 

p1michaud

Expedition Leader
Interior set up

Ursidae69 said:
This was my main reason for not building a sleeping platform. I like to be able to sit up while in my little camp home. :elkgrin:

Just currious if you built anything inside the cap for cargo storage and sleeping? Do you have any pics?

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BajaTaco

Swashbuckler
p1michaud said:
Chris,
Out of curriosity, how tall are you?

yep, I am 5'-10" too. I can sleep with the back closed up with no problem, but sleep on my side often. You are correct - there isn't much room to stretch the toes with it closed.
 

Willman

Active member
BajaTaco said:
yep, I am 5'-10" too. I can sleep with the back closed up with no problem, but sleep on my side often. You are correct - there isn't much room to stretch the toes with it closed.

Good point!!!

I have a DC Tacoma.....If i close my gate i would have to sleep in the fetal position!!!
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This mod is also high on my list!!!!


p1michaud said:
Camper sleeping solution. I've used the same set up for camping for a few years now(see pics below).
My main issues are:
1- Lack of head room.
2-Accessing items at the very end of the compartments (i.e. towards the front of the truck). I've made a simple tool an old broom handle with a hook at the end to reach things without having to climb into the camper.
3-For two people camping, I think that 5' 10" is about the max height for this set up IMO.


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Everyone has a great setup!!! Looking good!!! I'm going to build mine out of aluminum!!! This will save weight and also be a little more $$$ than wood...oh well...Then put 1/2" plywood on top with some carpet and a pad to finish it off.....Still planing out my drawer system layout!!! This system is going to store my dual battery and compressor...etc....Build up mod coming soon!!
 

Super Doody

Explorer
Guys thanks so much for sharing. Chris, thank you for the inspiration and documenting your setup and your adventures. :bowdown:

I'm so addicted to the forum now:D


Anyways, I have 3 different ideas in my head right now. There are all modular in design for easy removal and installation and light weight. I'm going to sketch them out and post there here. Maybe you guys can give me your opinions.:D

Oh incase you havent seen it, here is another cool camper truck.

http://www.pigseye.com/jackson/bed.htm
 

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