Best CB set-up:

awalter

Expedition Portal Team, Overland Certified OC0003
Scott,

I'm using the Wilson 1000 permanent mount antenna. It has an SWR reading of 1.1-1.2. I've got a mag mount firestick on my Scout, but it is a hassle with
low flying trees.

My CB is a Uniden SSB, I'll have to check on which model. It is 4-5 years old so probably not manufactured anymore. I would go with a SSB unit, as long as 1 other in the group your travelling with has sideband you can extend your range significantly.

OTHERWISE GET THAT HAM LICENSE!
 

flyingwil

Supporting Sponsor - Sierra Expeditions
GT has good input. With Most Cb's being limited to 4 Watts, the playing field is pretty equal. SO now the next up to bat is size and weight. In the CB selection I would go with a reputable name brand. I had my selection narrowed down to two smaller units that would fit in my ash tray location, The Uniden, Radio Shack, and the Cobra. I posted over at TTORA, and the general inputs was the Uniden for reliability, and I ended up with that.

The next most important part is your antenna, this includes your coax. A cheap radio and good coax, and antenna will perform well. Firestik.com has an excellent FAQ section that will answer everything you need to know about the coax, antenna and ground planes. A roof mount in the center of the roof is most ideal. For this I would go with a Wilson mount, and a whip.

I have seen quite a few fiberglass antenna setup fail over washboards and whoops, and would steer clear of them for that reason. (Ted knows about this... his mount stripped on the way home out of crown king, and our trail fix was just just good enough.)

Scott, there is a Cobra Unit, that has everything in the Mic, that might be best for your set up to mitigate cluttering in your rear space.
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I then would go with a Wilson 5000 Roof mount
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And some good co-Phase Coax.
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Good luck!

Wil



PS. WaH WAH WaAaAh wahhha WWWAaaaAh!
 
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Ursidae69

Traveller
flyingwil said:
PS. WaH WAH WaAaAh wahhha WWWAaaaAh!

******** at Will :xxrotflma

To those that were not there, Will just demonstrated exactly what Scott sounded like on the CB when he would try to talk out at the EP rally. :shakin:
 

asteffes

Explorer
While I understand the beneficial electrical properties of roof mounts, I can't see drilling a hole in the middle of the cab for, well, anything. The potential for leaks and roof damage should the antenna get caught on something is just too great IMO. I would absolutely go with a magnet mount before I permanently modified the roof.
 

awalter

Expedition Portal Team, Overland Certified OC0003
I have had roof mounted antennas for both CB & 2-meter for many years without any problems. The hassle of dealing with mag-mounts with low hanging obstacles IMO ain't worth it, I've been there.

Scott,
My Uniden SSB model is PC122XL.
 
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awalter

Expedition Portal Team, Overland Certified OC0003
expeditionswest said:
Al,

Do you know the model of you antenna and through the roof mount? I like your set-up

The CB antenna is a Wilson 1000 roof mount kit.

The 2-meter is a Larson **** roof mount kit, I'll have to get back to you on model.

Both kits come complete with coax & removable whips.

I have the coax routed down the door posts, one on each side, with about 16" between antenna bases front to rear mounted centered (so,so) on the roof.
 

BajaTaco

Swashbuckler
Scott, if you want a roof mount setup - I would just copy Al's. He has a Tacoma and we know it works really good. I agree about not using a mag-mount. For the kind of stuff we do, I have seen way too many of them fall off, not to mention the cruddies after years of being directly on the painted roof. For the whip, definitely stay away from the ridgid fiberglass stuff. Again, I would just copy Al.

For the radio, I would keep it fairly simple and lightweight. Maybe an RF gain adjustment would be nice. No need for weather bands as you already will have that on your 2M radio. FWIW, I have heard quite a few complaints of the hand-held cobras having troubles with the buttons.

Also, FWIW - I did follow the firestik advice on the coax length and everyone seems to have good results hearing me transmit as has been mentioned not just on the last trip, but most of the trips that I go on. I'm not saying that a shorter length won't work (I don't know) but just saying that mine does work good.
 

Ursidae69

Traveller
I think you're getting good advice from everyone. The most important thing is the antenna and the middle of the roof is the very best. I opted for fender mount and it shows. I have the cobra 75 wx st. For having everything all in one it is nice, takes less space, but personally I don't like it. It's too big for my hand and I have big hands, the buttons are not easy to push and the sound sucks unless it happens to be pointing right at your face. In my old truck I had a Uniden Pro520xl, it was small and worked great with the external speaker I had. That's another thing, you might want to get an external speaker. Most CBs don't have forward facing internal speakers like the ICOM V8000 does. Even the ICOM radio isn't really loud enough for me, I might get an external speaker someday again.
 
S

Scenic WonderRunner

Guest
I agree about not using a fiberglass antenna on the roof. I see these normally used on bumpers or fenders. I currently use a "Cobra" 4' mag mount whip centered on my roof just behind my sunroof. It has never popped off from a tree, branch....or. I guess it must have a really strong magnet.

If I were switching to a through the roof type.........I would consider the one below from Firestik (once at their website, look to the left and click on the "Venice"). I also like the fact the you can tilt the antenna down for low clearance driving!



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goodtimes

Expedition Poseur
Ursidae69 said:
Even the ICOM radio isn't really loud enough for me, I might get an external speaker someday again.

Hmmmm....I hadn't really thought about this, Chuck. It might help me hear you on the freeway with my windows down. (or did I hear you just fine, and chose to ignore you???? :p)
 

Ursidae69

Traveller
goodtimes said:
Hmmmm....I hadn't really thought about this, Chuck. It might help me hear you on the freeway with my windows down. (or did I hear you just fine, and chose to ignore you???? :p)

I'm pretty sure you were just ignoring me, no worries, didn't hurt my feelings.... :shakin:

Radio shack sells small external speakers for cheap. My last truck had an amplified external speaker that would blow your ears out if you turned it up too loud.
 

Suty

Adventurer
OK, CB Guys, I am using the Midland 79-290 with a Firestik 2 antenna. The antenna is attached to my Demello Bed Bar. I had a friend SWR it for me , it seems to be working ok. Is there a better Antenna mounting system ? I am planning to buy a Icom 208H in the near future and I was wondering what antenna would y'all recommend for that ? Thanks, Tu Compa, Suty
 

BajaTaco

Swashbuckler
Ursidae69 said:
The most important thing is the antenna and the middle of the roof is the very best. I opted for fender mount and it shows.

Chuck, just curious what you mean by "it shows".
 

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