Best engine for Land Cruiser Troopy

[7schulz]

This thread is to discuss the best engine, any engine that can be used in a land cruiser troopy FJ45 gas or diesel. I will probably mate it to an Allison 6speed. Engine options: Cummins 4bt, 5.9L in dodge trucks, duramax, chevy 350, 6.0Ls2, 5.7 or 6.1 hemi, 4.7 magnum, 4.7 or 5.7 toyota. Hino 165, Detroit Diesel, Mercedes/dodge sprinter diesel, Cat...anything else. Looking for reliability and longevity, mpg above 20 better at 25 or higher highway. Enough Hpower and torque for maybe a trailer with a car, trails and things land cruisers do, etc. Need to be able to drive it a good distance to the trails also. Not worried about laws or restrictions or emissions. Not to worried about noise or smell as long as its outside of the cab, would like to be able to talk and listen to radio in cab

 

[Layonnn]

personally, i'd go with the Cummins 4BT. Ive heard it's loud, popular, high MPG and high torque,

 

[Hltoppr]

Left hand or right hand drive?

Why? Because if it's LHD you'd be ahead by sticking with something that you could get an advance adapters' kit for...such as the 350/4.7chevy etc. Good compromise of power, parts availability etc.

Now...as for having a conversation inside the cab, and being able to drive for long distances....better have a good insulation plan for the entire cab area, including the roof.

RHD, try Mark's Adapters out of Australia for swap kits.

-H-

 

[RHINO]

i'm thinkin turbine engine

 

[4Rescue]

Whazt series of Troupy is it??? 45 or 75??? And my answer is Diesel... Go with a Diesel. the 4Bt can be done right, talk to DieselCruiserHead/Andre here on the board. He can definatly chime in on this and about 4Bt's in general. A Toyota Diesel would be awesome, but quite difficult to loacte the big 6's here. a 3b with a good turbo kit on it could work great if it's a 45... so did I mention I think you should go DIESEL???

Cheers

Dave

 

[7schulz]

82 FJ45 RHD. I lean toward diesel for myself, but there are so many options, many good packages already available with an Allison, plus the adaptation to most engines is pretty easy. Over 60 world wide OEM's have an Allison in a vehicle. The hummer and Renault sherpa both have allisons
Use your imagination guys, this is going to be a tank when I'm done. Dream would be good size diesel(open to other options hence the thread), 2000 or 3000 series Allison(once I find the engine I can figure out HP and Torque requirements and match up the correct Allison. What some don't think about is the Allison has torque multiplication and full power shifts). air lockers front and rear. air bag suspension. (LineX whole interior, floors, wall, and roof, part of dash, doors) lineX top of roof and under body and frame. big winch. 33-35's tires If I spend 30-40K over the next 6-10 years it will be like having a new truck payment so... Then it will be perfect, different and fing sweet.

 

[Mike S]

I would be sure to consider the weight of the engine that you are considering. I expect that a Toyota 4.2L 1HD-T or similar would be a good choice, and could be matted to all Toyota components - clutch, transmission, transfer case, drive lines, etc. with a lot of tricky adaptors and alterations. The weight would probably not necessitate major suspension replacement and set up.

This option is certainly more expensive that some of the other options, but might be preferred since it is an all-Toyota way to arrive where you want to be.

 

[7schulz]

I'm leaning toward a Hino J05D-TF it's a Diesel 4-cycle, 4 cylinder in-line water-cooled, dry cylinder line, direct injection turbocharged and intercooled. 175hp @2500rpm and 376lb/ft @1600rpm, 4.73L, 4.41x4.72 bore and stroke supposed to be the best in class fuel economy. already mated to an Allison 6speed (1st gear 3.102) (2nd 1.811) (3rd 1.406) (4th 1.0) (5th 0.712) (6th .610) With my axle ratio calculator if I use 33inch tires I will go with 3.73 and if I use 35's I'll go with 4.10 maybe 3.93 but probably 4.10. that will put me at 1600-1900 rpm at 70-75mph in the sweet spot of the engine for cruising and should still have grade-ability in 1st and 2nd

 

[nickw]

I'm leaning toward a Hino J05D-TF it's a Diesel 4-cycle, 4 cylinder in-line water-cooled, dry cylinder line, direct injection turbocharged and intercooled. 175hp @2500rpm and 376lb/ft @1600rpm, 4.73L, 4.41x4.72 bore and stroke supposed to be the best in class fuel economy. already mated to an Allison 6speed (1st gear 3.102) (2nd 1.811) (3rd 1.406) (4th 1.0) (5th 0.712) (6th .610) With my axle ratio calculator if I use 33inch tires I will go with 3.73 and if I use 35's I'll go with 4.10 maybe 3.93 but probably 4.10. that will put me at 1600-1900 rpm at 70-75mph in the sweet spot of the engine for cruising and should still have grade-ability in 1st and 2nd

US travel or World travel?

If you want consistant 20+mpg, gas is not a realistic option. You may be able to sqeeze it out with proper gearing and overdrive, but not likely.

What is the weight of that engine?

 

[7schulz]

US travel-
Haven't been able to find the weight yet but it is a Toyota so it's probably as light as it possibly can be. It can't be as heavy as a duramax or 5.9 cummins. Probably similar to the Isuzu 4BD1T I have heard of people using. If anybody can find the weight please let me know. J05D-TF is the engine spec

 

[Lulo]

1HZ or 3B (i prefer Toyota Engine :sombrero


Good Luck!!!

 

[Pskhaat]

Hino would be nice and be the closest to Toyota you could likely get. I don't think the Toy diesels like the 3B or even 1HZ without turbo will pull a car behind it happily.

We're all fans of diesel BUT have you considered just building a performance 2F? I know it is also gasoline but can you imagine the feel of an overstroked-by-design 3UR-FE in there

 

[rusty_tlc]

Go with the one you feel most comfortable working on and has the best parts availability in the areas you plan to travel.

A Chevy big block may not get the best mileage but you can get parts in BFE, or anyplace else in North America.

 

[Rot Box]

Gm 6.2/6.5

Aside from the 4BT my next suggestion would be a 6.2/6.5 V8 Diesel from a GM.

If I had the option I would start from the ground up and find the 82 6.2 "red" block (strongest 6.2 block made) and rebuild it with lower compression 19:1 pistons, install a gear drive (to replace chain drive for the injector pump), rebuild the mechanical injector pump with the hardened military internals, use F-vin 6.5 heads, GM-8 Turbo, military intake manifold, and make my own intercooler. I would install a FASS or Airdog for fuel delivery and a massive aluminum radiator as well.

I like this option because these motors and parts for them are everywhere, they bolt up to the standard GM drivetrain, make plenty of power and they can deliver very good fuel economy. Just a thought :coffeedrink:

 

[Hoosier 45]

7Shultz,
I sent you a PM. I have a 45 pickup and live in Terre Haute. I would like to make an engine swap as well.