Cabover vs. Long-Nose Platform

IdaSHO

IDACAMPER
One consideration in the debate of cabover vs long nose, a repair on the engine in a long nose may very well require the cab to be removed, not likely to be accomplished in any remote setting, whereas a cabover is a much more user friendly for most any repairs to the engine.

While not being a cab-over makes service/repair a bit more difficult, it doesn't make any service/repair impossible.
To clear things up, the fact that shops pull the cab off of trucks is by choice, NOT necessity.
 

Peter_n_Margaret

Adventurer
I’m curious about that last sentence, Peter.

I know you and I have chatted about your build it a few times, and that it’s served you well for many years.

What is it specifically about the Cabover platform that you prefer over a long nose?
Visibility.
The differences are very significant both from a driving perspective (especially as you crest each dune in the desert) and from what you see of the surrounding country due to the seating height above the ground.
Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 motorhome
 

ReluctantTraveler

Well-known member
Visibility.
The differences are very significant both from a driving perspective (especially as you crest each dune in the desert) and from what you see of the surrounding country due to the seating height above the ground.
Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 motorhome
That tracks! I think that's one of the things I'd listed as a pro of cab-overs. You get spectacular views!
 

NevadaLover

Forking Icehole
While not being a cab-over makes service/repair a bit more difficult, it doesn't make any service/repair impossible.
To clear things up, the fact that shops pull the cab off of trucks is by choice, NOT necessity.
Necessity being the mother of invention, removal of the cab on newer 450/4500 series is a way to turn a 3 or 4 day job into a 1 day job, some jobs are almost impossible with cab in place, I'll take a cabover in almost every circumstance.
 

IdaSHO

IDACAMPER
I mentioned that in my original post, but some folks disagree with that statement... https://forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/cabover-vs-long-nose-platform.242682/post-3151914
Not sure which post you are referring to, but if it is with regards to leaf springs…. that boat left in the 90’s. 😉 Conventional have always been regarded as having superior ride quality to that of cabover. Not terribly sure of the reasons, but having logged more than a million miles commercially, with near 20% of that being in cabover configurations, I can tell you it is true…. at least in my experience. 😉
 

mog

Kodiak Buckaroo
Here are some measurements I have taken on trucks I own/owned, with applicability to visibility * and accessibility.
*-visibility as to height above ground. Another factor for visibility in the long-nose vs. cabover debate is forward visibility to the ground, with the cabover having the edge over a long-nose and a short-nose (and sloped hood) like the Kodiak falling in between.

All on stock suspension (no lift or 'leveling' changes), F250 on 35", Fuso FG on 37", Kodiak on 42", MB1017A on 46"

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ReluctantTraveler

Well-known member
Here are some measurements I have taken on trucks I own/owned, with applicability to visibility * and accessibility.
*-visibility as to height above ground. Another factor for visibility in the long-nose vs. cabover debate is forward visibility to the ground, with the cabover having the edge over a long-nose and a short-nose (and sloped hood) like the Kodiak falling in between.

All on stock suspension (no lift or 'leveling' changes), F250 on 35", Fuso FG on 37", Kodiak on 42", MB1017A on 46"

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Wow, you're a good foot+ higher in the Fuso and Kodiak. Coupled with no nose on the cabover obstructing your view of the ground, I can see why some folks love them so much.
 

Ozarker

Well-known member
@RT, you mean to say you'd consider building out a truck camper from scratch, to be safe enough to tie your kids in, but you wouldn't consider modifying a dinette seat in a manufactured camper to an automotive standard?

In those Ambo crashes, count on injuries with each passenger, pelvis, ruptured spline, neck and back injuries. The patient strapped down as they are is in the best position and should walk away.
 
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ReluctantTraveler

Well-known member
@RT, you mean to say you'd consider building out a truck camper from scratch, to be safe enough to tie your kids in, but you wouldn't consider modifying a dinette seat in a manufactured camper to an automotive standard?

In those Ambo crashes, count on injuries with each passenger, pelvis, ruptured spline, neck and back injuries. The patient strapped down as they are is in the best position and should walk away.

I'm not driving down the road with my kids in the living habitat, so I'm not really sure how that's even remotely a valid comparison.
 

Ozarker

Well-known member
I'm not driving down the road with my kids in the living habitat, so I'm not really sure how that's even remotely a valid comparison.
Sorry, back there it was mentioned to just buy a Class A/B/C ready to go and go.
People can and do ride in the "living area". You made the comment about seating after that link to that 19' C, but that might be too small for you.
 

ReluctantTraveler

Well-known member
Sorry, back there it was mentioned to just buy a Class A/B/C ready to go and go.
People can and do ride in the "living area". You made the comment about seating after that link to that 19' C, but that might be too small for you.
As I mentioned then, if I could find a class C with a crew-cab instead of a 2 seater, that'd be a no-brainer for me. There's no world in which I'm putting my kids at the dinette while driving down the road, even if a crash is unlikely. Those are not accident rated seats.
 

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