Camping Fridges - Pros and Cons

[jdzl]

That sounds like a nice setup, and if I needed refrigeration every day for 4 months then a 12V fridge makes perfect sense.

FWIW $1385 is more than 5 times what it cost to lift my Trooper 3".

There are always outliers.

I figured the AEV 2.5" lift kit for JKU (springs, shocks, track bar) runs about $1000 (with FCA brackets) and that's considered on the entry-level side of things by a lot of people (cost-wise, not performance-wise). But yeah, $275 for the same thing would've been nicer.

 

[Scoutn79]

When I first saw an ARB fridge/freezer and the price tag of $700.00 at the time. I thought people had to be out of their minds to pay that much for a "fancy cooler" and there was NO WAY I would ever pay that.
WELL!!!!!!!

I have had my Engel for 7 or 8 years now.

CONS
price...long since forgotten
Battery drain...dual batteries cure that and since I rarely stay in the same place for more than a couple of days it isn't a big concern.
PROS
Not having to plan a trip or days out around having to run into town to get ice...and at $4.00 gal gas it gets expensive not to mention a pain.
No water logged food.
Can add items that are warm (drinks) and open close as much as I like without worrying about loosing the cold air inside.

I purchased mine originaly for a 6 day trip to the Maze District of Canyonlands in Utah.
For me once I paid the CC bill I have never looked back, one of the best investments for camping I have made.
If you figure the price of the cooler then the inconvenience/time/gas and ice cost to keep a cooler full of cold water/ water logged food to me it pays for itself in a few years ( OK not literally but figuratively)
The only time I don't use it is during hunting season...and then I have a harder time keeping things from freezing than keeping them cold....
I use my Engel 3-4 weeks a year.

I still use a cooler for trips of only 2 or 3 days. I fill 2l soda bottles with water and freeze them instead of using ice. Nothing gets soggy and I always have ice cold water, I drain the melted water out of the bottles as I need it.

There are situations and circumstances for both. Figure what is easiest for you where you are going and go with that. I have to admit that for many the cost of these fridge/freezers is hard to stomach.
Darrell

 

[jim65wagon]

I love grabbing a drink out of the ice cold slush in a cooler.

.....and right there next to your beer in the slushy water is your bologna sammich wrapped tightly in plastic but still somehow all water logged and gross.....no way an ice cold beer can make that sammich taste better!
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of course we've only managed to use our new fridge on one trip, but it was awesome!

 

[Utah KJ]

Second - You need adequate power. Your car's battery will run most fridges for a day, maybe two. But how far do you want to push it before you harm your battery or are left stranded? Or do you factor in the cost of a dual battery setup? Having a second battery, not even a dual battery system, has alleviated some of this anxiety, however.

I have been working on a solution for this that will cost a fraction of a dual batt set up, takes up no cargo space, set and forget, will extend the power supply output and get you home when the fun is done. It will also work with a dual batt system if you already have one and make that system work even better! I have a prototype in my 4Runner since November and it does work and hasn't caught fire yet. :wings:

 

[5Runner]

I have been working on a solution for this that will cost a fraction of a dual batt set up, takes up no cargo space, set and forget, will extend the power supply output and get you home when the fun is done. It will also work with a dual batt system if you already have one and make that system work even better! I have a prototype in my 4Runner since November and it does work and hasn't caught fire yet. :wings:

Is this a riddle, or are you going to tell us about it?

 

[Utah KJ]

Is this a riddle, or are you going to tell us about it?

I will soon. It's difficult trying to get something off the ground when you're using your own money. I've been discussing this on RME (not really in any more detail) but I also have to be careful not to violate any of the rules of the forums I plan to ultimately launch the product on. I did give a live demo of this product to a couple of people in the outdoor enthusiast community one of which is a member here. There were NDA's involved as well.
One of the key components in the prototype works but doesn't offer the adjustability I need to offer a wide range of custom-tailored options for the end user. The concept is sound and repeatable.

 

[evldave]

First - You're somewhat married to your power source. Most cases, this means keeping the fridge in the car. But when camping with smaller kids, it can be difficult for them to retrieve a drink and you need to keep the car unlocked. I have cargo drawers in the back of my LandCruiser, and it can be a pain to get stuff out of the fridge due to the height. I have started bringing a second battery so I can leave the fridge out as I would a cooler.

Second - You need adequate power. Your car's battery will run most fridges for a day, maybe two. But how far do you want to push it before you harm your battery or are left stranded? Or do you factor in the cost of a dual battery setup? Having a second battery, not even a dual battery system, has alleviated some of this anxiety, however.

Third - this one is really minor, but it does bug me a bit. I love grabbing a drink out of the ice cold slush in a cooler. I don't know why, but something is missing when I grab a drink out of the fridge. It's too sterile. I want the beer label to peel off from soaking in ice water for two days.:sombrero:

I've solved the power and portability issues, and I'm sure you can tell by the picture, my beer labels are in place and didn't prevent me from drinking them

 

[grimbo]

I have had. Waeco 40l fridge for nearly 10 years and it's been great. Much easier than the old cooler. One thing I probably will start doing again is getting a small six can cooler filled with dry ice.

This will allow us to keep drinks out of the fridge saving space. If we want a ice cold drink just lay it on the dry ice and rotate it on the ice for about a minute, nice and cold. The dry ice easily lasts the weekend, no mess and cold drinks.

 

[Fireman78]

My ARB 50 which Ive had for 3ish years or so has revolutionized the way I camp. Of all the upgrades I have done my fridge is probably the best one. Ive had that thing on trips over a month in duration, in temps nearing 115 deg., never had a problem. I do use solar to help out, and my truck has a massive battery, but still. I LOVE not having a slushy mess all over the place or having floating soaked food, or having to get ice every two days. A con?.. Cant think of one. UNLESS, something breaks...not sure how to get it fixed here in the US.. Knock on wood Ive been lucky.

 

[MattGuyver]

I'm debating this very issue right now and have come to the conclusion that I need both. A high quality 12V fridge/ freezer is a must and, from my experience, I'd stick with Engel, ARB, or National Luna. I own various Coleman coolers and always take at least one of them with me for overflow or last minute items- especially when the kids are along. I use the ice chest for items that are sealed and needed more regularly, i.e. beer, coke, kids drinks, etc while the Engel stores the meat, cheese, eggs, etc.. This way my 3 year old never needs to rifle through the Engel breaking the eggs while looking for a CapriSun. So my latest question is whether I upgrade from my el cheapo current coolers to a nicer Engel (which have gotten much better reviews than Yeti and are $100 less)? If so, what size? I wish they made something between a 35 and 65qt.

 

[Fireman78]

I had this set up bouncing around that back of my pickup for a week in Utah recently. Worked great, I charged the battery whenever I was stopped for a while. (And then an unfortunate wind incident that killed my inverter, totally my fault.). I love my ARB fridge. And running it off of the sun

 

[justfred]

I know I'm even more of an outlier - but I really like not taking any food that requires cooling. I can live without fresh stuff for a couple of days, and it saves a lot of hassle; if I've got ice for the beers and such that's nice but not a requirement.

That said, am considering an electric fridge; I've already got the solar panel and wouldn't mind a spare battery.

 

[justfred]

Follow-up: I found an ARB 42 (MT45F-ALT), used, on Craigslist for $350, picked it up today. We plugged it in to the wall at the guy's house and it worked fine. I just plugged it in to the Rover and I get nothing - no green light on the cable or the fridge. Wondering if my plug is wired backwards or if there's some other obvious problem, haven't had time to mess with it or call the guy back yet; will start by plugging it directly to the battery and make sure that works. I already checked both fuses, and they seem good, I'll try replacing them anyhow when I get home.

Anyone else have ideas why 120v would work, but 12v wouldn't?

(edit)

Never mind. Stupid cigarette lighter socket. Fridge works great, bought a yellow top Optima to go with it, now I just have to get some beer so I can wire the batteries!

 

[taugust]

I don't miss (and haven't used) a cooler since I got my Engel about 3 years ago. I already had the dual battery system, and now have solar, so power is not a problem. I have used it on day runs to bring ice cream bars for the group. I ususally keep it near freezing, since I like my drinks cold and fresh food can handle that for a few days. For drink ice, I put cubes from the home freezer in a zip lock bag. They stay frozen enough for several days on the trail. VO and Seven is the preferred beverage. I have a friend who still uses a cooler and his solution to soggy food is to put everything in a river-trip style drybag inside the cooler.

 

[VATACO]

I have a 75 quart Yeti I use for my weekend adventures, and I'm not sure why so many have problems with soggy food. I imagine evaporation as the ice melts causes warm air and moisture to rise causing anything not sealed to become soggy, but using freezer bags in the Yeti tray, I don't have that problem at all. I don't eat bread though, so that may be a large part of it.

Being on the East Coast and not having the amazing views of you folks out West keeps my trips short, so the cooler will work fine for me until I can figure out how to move out West permanently.