cross country gas storage?

[CJCA]

The blitz cans are more like people saying their $100 family tent is just as good as a high end tent
They can wish but when it comes to the limits they fall short IMHO

Folks won't have to contend with the usual problems with new Blitz gas cans any longer......

http://www.plasticsnews.com/headlines2.html?id=25695

 

[Ghetto Fab.]

Oddly enough, I've had better luck with CARB compliant metal gas cans than the old style non-CARB cans. I could never get the gasket on the old style to seal up and I'd allways get water and rust in the cans if they were stored outside. The new cans have been stored outside for several years with no rust issues, and they don't seem to leak when I go rockcrawling. I use a siphon for transfering fuel.

Having traveled the southwest and taken many a backroad route, I'd just keep an eye on the gas gauge and be aware how far you are from civilization. In my little yota pickup I never needed my gas cans.


Kevo

 

[BIGVAN]

Oddly enough, I've had better luck with CARB compliant metal gas cans than the old style non-CARB cans. I could never get the gasket on the old style to seal up and I'd allways get water and rust in the cans if they were stored outside. The new cans have been stored outside for several years with no rust issues, and they don't seem to leak when I go rockcrawling. I use a siphon for transfering fuel.


Kevo

Yep, those are the cans I'm talking about.
:smiley_drive:

 

[spikemd]

Folks won't have to contend with the usual problems with new Blitz gas cans any longer......

http://www.plasticsnews.com/headlines2.html?id=25695

OUCH! Guess they had to many leaking cans...

But really, those lawsuits are probably ridiculous and I equate it to suing the gun makers when someone gets shot. There are plenty of idiots in the world who are going to blow themselves up. It isn't b/c of the gas can...

I personally never carry gas inside a closed vehicle no matter how air-tight you think it is. Not a good idea. Put them on top of the vehicle.

I second the Super Siphon. I also recommend the extension you can buy for it so you can leave the gas cans on the roof and just siphon from there rather than taking them off the roof. Very easy to use and empties the cans fast. I have used military scepter MFCs with new viton gaskets.

 

[Adventure IQ]

Love Septer....

 

[Stumpalump]

“Blitz was very good at what they did,” said Tom Cray, president of No-Spill. “The legal system is what brought them down. Blitz exported around the world and only here [in the United States] were there lawsuits.”

Trial lawyers are another loyal special interest group of our Democratic party looking out for us. Gee Thanks. Come on November.

 

[Hedge]

1) How is the best way to handle temperature and altitude changes? I was thinking under filling and venting every once and a while; is there a better way?

Reaching waaaaay back to high school, PV=nRT. Boyle's ideal gas law. The liquid inside will change phase from liquid to gas (evaporate) until the can is pressurized to the same pressure as before it was vented off. Temperature determines the amount of pressure.

A can with a good reputation for non-leakage would be a non-CARB NATO/Wedco style metal can or a Scepter with viton gasket. I haven't experience with the CARB style yet.

 

[off-roader]

A can with a good reputation for non-leakage would be a non-CARB NATO/Wedco style metal can or a Scepter with viton gasket. I haven't experience with the CARB style yet.

Tap, tap, tap... Is this thin on?

You're the third person to recommend this option.

Not sure if the OP has considered this as an option? Perhaps he missed those suggestions or since its not carb compliant he isn't even considering it regardless of how good it works?

As much as people tout the newer plastic containers Id be willing to bet money the new cans wont last as long as a NATO Jerry cans will.

HTH.

 

[Crom]

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This is the setup I built for my FJ. A 12 gallon Moeller Topside tank and a Holley Marine grade pump. I was powering the pump with a "battery in a bag" setup, but I have since ran a aux power plug to the roof rack. When I am done with the trip, I pump any remaining gas into the truck and put this setup back on the shelf. I keep 4ft of hose in a double ziplock bag that I just connect to the pump valve and put the other end in the tank filler. When done, simply coil the hose back up, reseal and move on. No fumes in the truck, etc. The tank, being for marine use has a vent and flame arrestor as well.

This is a really wonderful setup you have. I have thought of doing the same thing. However, one thing I haven't solved is, filling the aux gas tank technically requires the tank to be dismounted and put on the ground for proper safety filling protocol. Do you do this or just leave it on the roof and fill it?

 

[Vegas_Nick]

I leave it on the truck when filling. Look at it like it's intended use as a marine tank. You wouldn't remove it from the boat to fill it. I do always make sure I ground myself before opening the tank just to eliminate any chance of static discharge.

 

[Crom]

I leave it on the truck when filling. Look at it like it's intended use as a marine tank. You wouldn't remove it from the boat to fill it. I do always make sure I ground myself before opening the tank just to eliminate any chance of static discharge.

Your setup is bad *** and super clean. I'll probably do something very similar.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I recommend reading this: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/pdfs/hid2.pdf The problem is not so much grounding yourself, but grounding the tank itself. The risk of fire from static electricity is probably much greater with wind rushing the gas tank while in transit. The referenced document contains some procedures to help minimize fire risk.

 

[Vegas_Nick]

Thanks!

Yep, I fully understand the refueling dangers and such. The trick is, no matter how you do it, to equalize the current difference between you, the tank, and the fuel nozzle. Out here in the desert in the winter, static electricity is massive! :Wow1: I haven't done it yet, but having a background in aviation, I have been looking at bonding a grounding wire to the tank and putting a clip on the end of it to clip to the nozzle while fueling. Done correctly, that would keep the current potential between the two the same and also dissipate any static charge BEFORE starting refuel.