Cummins or Cadillac?

UHAULER

Explorer
Remember that the 425/472/500 Cadillac engines were designed to move big cars with smooth power for 300,000+ miles. There are a lot of advantages to using them for truck engines as I've been finding out. Many Chevy/GMC truck owners in my home state of Idaho would put them in tow vehicles to good effect.

Yep, My dad was a buick man. He had a 68 electra with a 430 that went about 250k miles that we drove to the wrecking yard.A 70 electra with a 455 that went about 250k miles and was still running ok and a 73 centurian with a 455 that had 290k miles on it when he sold it and was running fine. I had a 68 skylark that i put a 455 stage 1 engine in place of the 350. All of this talk makes me want to put a Buick 455 into something.
 

superbuickguy

Explorer
Yep, My dad was a buick man. He had a 68 electra with a 430 that went about 250k miles that we drove to the wrecking yard.A 70 electra with a 455 that went about 250k miles and was still running ok and a 73 centurian with a 455 that had 290k miles on it when he sold it and was running fine. I had a 68 skylark that i put a 455 stage 1 engine in place of the 350. All of this talk makes me want to put a Buick 455 into something.

I had that thought... so I went with a 455 in a 50 Sedanet :)
 

Woofwagon

Adventurer
Superbuickguy, you know what would be really cool for that '50 Buick? Put a full tilt Toronado or Eldorado powertrain in the front of that thing. Kind of like CadZilla but with twin turbos. I know the TH425 transaxle can handle lots of power.
 

Ridge Runner

Delta V
Thanks fellas.

Aren't the NV4500's rated at 450 ft/lbs? So it had me wondering.

That Caddy engine looks real appealing now.

What grade fuel do you plan on running? Think it will get those numbers on low grade swill, or have to go high octane. Heck, Hi-Test is more than diesel here in Eye-dah-ho.

Unfortunately, you can't get Buick-Olds-Pontiac bolt pattern bell housings for the NV4500. I'm not sure how different they are, the only thing you might be able to do is adapt an SM465 bell housing to an NV4500 tranny. I checked on this a couple years ago with Advance Adapters.
 

Woofwagon

Adventurer
Get the pattern for both engine and transmission then take it to a local shop who has a water jet or plasma cutter. They can lay it out and cut from mild steel plate.
 

Woofwagon

Adventurer
I plan on using the waterjet where I work to cut brackets as needed for lights, boxes or even suspension parts.
 

Jeep

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You can buy a BOP to GM bell housing adapter plate dirt cheap.
 

Woofwagon

Adventurer
Ok I've got the cam picked out for the Caddy. A COMP cam with 268 duration on intake and exhaust is going to be just the right setup for torque and fuel economy on long expeditions. At 250 bucks with lifters, Summit has the best deal.
 

Woofwagon

Adventurer
Found a complete master rebuilt kit that comes with a 280/284 cam with lifters and timing set for $1084 on eBay. Comes with pistons too, but I still have to look at what size the dish is on the stock slugs. I don't want to run too high a compression on this motor, I'd like it to be able to run on 87 octane with no detonation.
 

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