Decisions

[jgallo1]

Expo forum once again looking for some solid reasoning.

I have a 2019 F250 xlt 6.7. It is an amazing truck.
All the power and payload I need, locking diff. manual locking hubs.
Right now it carries an FWC Granby which was a trial idea for the wife and dogs. I have to say, I have grown to love camping in that thing.
I want my truck back and the misses still wants the camper. She loves driving my F250, she has commandeered the thing.

I found an amazing deal on a 2nd gen tundra with low miles, an extended range tank, and an FWC Hawk camper. That now will be her daily driver and our camping rig.
Problem solved.

My initial plan was to sell our FWC Granby, which we will make good money on. A friend told me his neighbor wants to sell his 2021 tradesman with the Power Wagon package. Basically, it's a Power Wagon without all the decals and badges. The guy waited like 6 months for the truck, has put 1,200 miles on it, and needs to sell. He is selling for a decent price.

I was now thinking I could sell my F250 with the Granby and buy the Ram. I would pocket a decent amount of cash.

I lose my diesel, I don't tow enough to truly justify the diesel. When I do tow, it's awesome. Having the power for the mountain passes and long HWY stretches is also amazing. I like the look of the Ford better personally. It is capable enough for my needs offroad.

The Ram, I lose payload, towing, fuel economy sucks. I have not heard any success story from trying to swap a bigger tank for the Ram gasser. Capability is amazing.

am I missing anything in my decision process?

 

[Overdrive]

There's no need to "justify a diesel" unless at purchase, your concern is to reduce the purchase price. (Higher repair costs down the road not withstanding, if you keep it out of warranty that long.) You won't save any fuel $$ by going gas. Sounds like you like the power of the diesel, the looks of the Ford, the camper that's on it...why change? Yeah, the PW might go a few technical places your F250 won't, but has that ever been an issue?

 

[jadmt]

I have a power wagon (2020) and my biggest beef with it is the lack of a bigger tank and I have not found any reasonable way to go bigger. Why they did not come with at least a 36 gallon tank at minimum. I have been happy with the MPG it is easy to get mid teens. Even driving fast I get decent mileage. Pay load is dismal, my particular rig has a 1565 lb pay load which is more than most. I also test drove a tradesman with PW package and it was only slightly better.. It is by far the most comfortable rig I have been in and I have been in a lot. With E rated 35's it is a 1000 mile a day rig. first one mine second the tradesman package.

 

[jgallo1]

There's no need to "justify a diesel" unless at purchase, your concern is to reduce the purchase price. (Higher repair costs down the road not withstanding, if you keep it out of warranty that long.) You won't save any fuel $$ by going gas. Sounds like you like the power of the diesel, the looks of the Ford, the camper that's on it...why change? Yeah, the PW might go a few technical places your F250 won't, but has that ever been an issue?

I scored on the purchase of my diesel. It is an extended cab short bed. I am ok with a 6'8" bed. It's a funny build b/c it is an xlt with the XL technology package. Which I actually prefer. Its way cheaper to add an aftermarket stereo unit, with all the bells and whistles. I bought it off the lot at the beginning of 2020 deep in Dakota farm country. They said nobody wanted it, bc of the short bed and extended cab. It had 300 test drive miles on it. I got it for low 40's. The crazy thing is now even with 20k on the rig. I could sell it for more than I bought it for. Also, for the past few months in central CA, diesel has been cheaper than 87 gas. I hope it stays this way.

 

[jgallo1]

I have a power wagon (2020) and my biggest beef with it is the lack of a bigger tank and I have not found any reasonable way to go bigger. Why they did not come with at least a 36 gallon tank at minimum. I have been happy with the MPG it is easy to get mid teens. Even driving fast I get decent mileage. Pay load is dismal, my particular rig has a 1565 lb pay load which is more than most. I also test drove a tradesman with PW package and it was only slightly better.. It is by far the most comfortable rig I have been in and I have been in a lot. With E rated 35's it is a 1000 mile a day rig. first one mine second the tradesman package.
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thats rough payload-wise. Its a trade off for the other items that make the power wagon so cool.

 

[calicamper]

Tundra for camper rig and going from a 250 camper rig to tundra? Yeah that’ll be a big disappointment. I get the diesel concerns but I don’t get the switch to the Tundra which will be maxed out on payload or over with fwc.

 

[phsycle]

If you don’t need the extra offroad capability of the PW, then why change? If I’m reading your post right, the F250 has all the pro’s and none of the con’s. Not sure what the predicament is.

 

[Tex68w]

I've had them all and my suggestion is to keep your F-250. You gain nothing but a slight bump in off-road capability by moving to the PW and you didn't mention needing more. You'll lose power, payload, towing, fuel economy and you aren't a fan of the looks as much so why bother? Like the others have already said, you already have the diesel so you aren't saving anything by selling it now, keep it around, IMHO it's the better truck.

 

[jadmt]

thats rough payload-wise. Its a trade off for the other items that make the power wagon so cool.

to be honest I love it more than I want to admit. i love knocking its shortcomings but in reality it is freaking awesome. If I need more payload I can add airbags. I just helped my buddy add airbags and it was simple.

 

[jgallo1]

Tundra for camper rig and going from a 250 camper rig to tundra? Yeah that’ll be a big disappointment. I get the diesel concerns but I don’t get the switch to the Tundra which will be maxed out on payload or over with fwc.

The tundra will be the wife's daily driver and our camping rig. I really wanted my truck back. What I mean when I say that, I wanted my f250, without a camper in the back so I could my truck like a truck again.

The Tundra/ Hawk combo I bought has some helping mods. The guy who owned it needed to sell it to buy a sprinter. So I scored. It is a 2011 tundra, 5.7 with an extended range fuel tank, and airbags. I am going to pick it up in like 2 weeks. I can say that it was cheaper than buying most accessorized tacomas.

I know it will not be as fun on trips, but it will get the job done. I get my truck back

 

[jgallo1]

I've had them all and my suggestion is to keep your F-250. You gain nothing but a slight bump in off-road capability by moving to the PW and you didn't mention needing more. You'll lose power, payload, towing, fuel economy and you aren't a fan of the looks as much so why bother? Like the others have already said, you already have the diesel so you aren't saving anything by selling it now, keep it around, IMHO it's the better truck.

I figured you would chime on with solid reasoning. You and I have had some serious truck A.D.D over the years ha ha.

 

[jgallo1]

If you don’t need the extra offroad capability of the PW, then why change? If I’m reading your post right, the F250 has all the pro’s and none of the con’s. Not sure what the predicament is.

Sometimes when I see a good deal, I just jump. Knowing I could make cash and come out on top is the driver. It does not always lead to happiness in the end. Your right, I really enjoy that F250.

 

[dbhost]

I am going to throw out a somewhat controversial opinion here as there is no shortage of folks tha tlove their RAM trucks.... but the constantly evolving / changing corporate ownership and unstable business that is, and has been Chrysler since as far back as I can remember, As part of Stellantis, Dodge, RAM etc... are part of the same conglomerate responsible for bringing to the world Peugeot, and FIat vehciles. Neither of those brands are known to make long lasting reliable vehicles. RAM trucks are consistently rated toward the bottom in the reliability ratings, and with a sketchy / unstable business history, I would be concerned with owning one long term.

I could be totally off base, but as it sits, they are not my cup of tea.

Keep the super duty, sell the camper off of the Tundra and call it a day.

 

[jadmt]

 

[Explorerinil]

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I’ve owned several ram trucks and all have been problem free, they are a very solid platform that has an undeserved reputation. I’ll be really curious to see what trans goes behind the refresh hd ram.