E-FAN or Mech-FAN

SpencerFitch

Observer
If funding was a non issue, which would you use.

e-fan for fuel efficiency/less wear on water pump ?
or
mech fan for simplicity? [arguably]

Also water fording?
E-fan getting wet but being able to turn it off
vs
mech fan spinning in water, [breaking?]
 

Harald Hansen

Explorer
An electrical fan isn't really that complicated. If I were to build a cooling system for my vehicle, I'd go with electrical fans. I'm just wondering if two smaller fans would be better for an overland vehicle. That way there is some redundancy.
 

SpencerFitch

Observer
Yea Im really starting to consider an e-fan.

I may go to the junk yard and pull a fan from a ford taurus and slap it in my discovery.

I understand how to wire it up so that it is controllable from a switch, or always on with key in the on position, and selectable high and low. What I don't understand is how hard is it to hook it up to a thermostat and get it to turn on only when you need it [below 30mph and at a certain temperature] I guess a computer is needed for that.
 

corax

Explorer
I had to go with an electric fan because of clearance, but highly recommend them anyway. For fan control, I use a thermo-switch that ground a relay at a given temp point - not too hard to find, look for "radiator fan switch" and find a plug to screw it into in the cooling system. The other way uses a temp sensor that gets pushed into the radiator fins, but I can't speak for that type as I've never used one.
 

HenryJ

Expedition Leader
My e-fan conversion
I did it primarily as a way to match the temperature range that I desired.
No electrics will match the simplicity or power of a mechanical fan. These have been working well for me.
 

BigAl

Expedition Leader
I like a non-clutched, mechanical fan with a good shroud. For walking speed, low range 4x4ing, I've found this is best. For highway, anything works. I'm running a 17" reverse rotation flexalite right now
 

whipp

Observer
Clutched mechanical fan for me. I'm of the opinion that a mechanical drive can transmit more power to a fan than an electrical drive. Additionally, many ExPo vehicles already have a heavier than normal load on their electrical system.

A good clutch will disengage the fan when it isn't needed. It'll still spin, but not with full force or much load from the engine. When idling and cool, I can stop the fan on my Land Cruiser by holding a welding glove to the back of the fan - even spin it backwards. For fording water - slowly entering the water will cool that clutch pretty quickly, causing it to disengage.

When hot, even at idle, it'll darn near suck your shirt onto the grill.

Some mechanical clutches are "tunable", too. In many Toyota clutches (manufactured by AISIN or Eaton), you can replace the silicone oil, responsible for transmitting power from the shaft to the fan, with a thicker viscosity; this causes a "stronger" engagement when hot. I'm currently running approximately 17,000cst oil, versus the 3,000cst oil that is stock in US market FZJ80s. The thermostat valve may also adjustable, which changes the temperature where the clutch starts to engage. My knowledge is limited to what I've seen on Toyotas, but I don't have any reason to believe this wouldn't be true for many other manufacturers.
 

rusty_tlc

Explorer
I've seen to many problems with after market E-fans on the trail.
I'd stick with whatever the engine came with if possible.
 

brianjwilson

Some sort of lost...
A lot of e-fan setups are notoriously unreliable. Technically I would say the controllers and wiring are actually what causes the problems.
Generally I would prefer electric fans, however a mechanical fan is definitely more reliable. For something hauls and tows very heavy loads, say pulling a heavy trailer up a mountain, a mechanical fan will generally pull a lot more air when turning high RPMs than your average e-fan will. I have heard of several full size truck owners who switched to e-fans and started having issues over-heating when they were towing.
 

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