EarthRoamer LTX - new layout

Steve_382

Active member
It actually looks like they copied the interior layouts of the Grit, Megadon, TruckHouse units with the dinette in the rear. Of course they dressed it up to still charge $900,000. They did add some passthrough storage in the rear which looks handy and kind of reminded me of the EarthCruiser TerraNova.

 

Steve_382

Active member
Re: new 24v system.
Anyone know if ER is using the 24v alternator that comes with the Ford 2.0kw Pro Power option (or retrofits one in) for dcdc charging ?
Wonder why they didn't just go to the 48v systems like StoryTeller Grit and StoryTeller vans use. Smaller cables and more efficient.
 

Robb_D

New member
It actually looks like they copied the interior layouts of the Grit, Megadon, TruckHouse units with the dinette in the rear. Of course they dressed it up to still charge $900,000. They did add some passthrough storage in the rear which looks handy and kind of reminded me of the EarthCruiser TerraNova.

The argument could be made that all of those copied the EarthRoamer HD and that the SX and now LTx are downsized versions of a similar floorplan. ER HD came out in 2016/2017?
 

gdaut

Active member
Door up front and seating in a U shaped dinette is not exactly a new innovation I think. I would guess lots of campers have done that for a long time. It makes it possible to have a second bed. This will probably not be enough for me to drop a mil on a new ER though.
 

lucilius

Active member
Have to admit this looks great and offers a more livable seating arrangement. ER fit and finish is always good and these newer ones appear to be pushing up to the level of some of the fine, and equally/often more expensive, European campers though available American diesel offroad trucks do not appear alongside/compare favorably to the MAN/MB/Iveco/etc. rigs when you dwell & operate well above 20k lbs...maybe not as big a US market for heavy rigs that can range far off the pavement like the ER-HD vs Europe where it always seems like a happy little german/french/belgian family will think nothing of dropping a mil or two on a big MAN/MB rig dialed up to taj mahal luxury level, then range deep into the rough terrain and lawless/wartorn areas of the equatorial regions, and blog about how enlightening it all is, while Americans (C. Aarons and some others notwithstanding) driving heavy campers seem mostly content to tackle the highways and occasional dirt roads throughout the New World that rarely require locking diffs, winches, chains, river fording, etc. For another variant, ER could surpass F550 magnitude and build with the F600 regular or extra cab to achieve higher rear GAWR (15,500lbs), put some legit seatbelt seating in the camper that does double duty enhancing the seating area when parked....or just go with the F600 crew cab and this layout. It appears like this is a 8' wide, 12' tall, ~30' long vehicle with the bumper boxes that seats/sleeps up to 4 people...carrying 5 or 6 would be better. If you've spent any time in previous models (2006-2023), you quickly notice two main shortfalls (esp. in this price range) with these rigs: the lack of a good "lounge" area that you might want for long term trips/live aboard and more importantly that they (and maybe not this latest version...could not find any mention of weight/GAWR on ER site) seem to operate very close to rear axle/extension/tire combo design limits, which apparently is not impacted by the rear SRW conversion and airbag suspension (you do keep a "Ford" warranty). Going to a 43" tire is a good choice and should be better than the previous era's 335/80r20....which it should be noted performs well if load, speed, tire pressure and maintenance are prioritized, which has been a challenge for some owners in the past. Publishing front+rear axle unloaded and estimated loaded weights on this "LTx" would go far toward answering any questions regarding GAWRs, e.g. does the LTx F550 have the optional 7500lbs front axle GAWR?, exactly how much weight can I put on the rear bumper/storage boxes? can I remove the boxes and mount a powered lift for two dirtbikes on the back?, etc. Do they offer optional stronger axles that are matched to the vehicle width?
At the very least, at that price, one should be able to afford a live-in/on-call mechanic to maintain the vehicle and all the systems...or have the leisure time to dive into an impressive level of DIY maintenance mastery. Overall, this new layout looks like a big win.
 

BillFitz

Member
I always chuckle when we unwashed criticize a $1million rig. You have to remember these campers are built to the buyer's expectations and not our expectations. Those buyers are different than us, for better or worse.
 

jk6661

Observer
I always chuckle when we unwashed criticize a $1million rig. You have to remember these campers are built to the buyer's expectations and not our expectations. Those buyers are different than us, for better or worse.
Exactly. Spending $100K or even $50K on a rig would be unimaginable to billions of people around the world who can barely make ends meet (or simply can't). $1 million to some people is like $1K to me. It's all about perspective.
 

Ozarker

Well-known member
$900,000.00 and you can't stand up getting out of bed on the sides, you have to shimmy down and crawl out at the bottom. 2 people, each with twp pottie runs at night means less sleep! :)
 

rruff

Explorer
$900,000.00 and you can't stand up getting out of bed on the sides, you have to shimmy down and crawl out at the bottom. 2 people, each with twp pottie runs at night means less sleep! :)
(y) These should be designed for the geriatric crowd who are most likely to afford them. Urination facilities should be included in the berth. And where is the maid's quarters?

I'll be happy peeing in my laundry bottle, and my harem can use a funnel, and we don't need to be waking each other up...
 

38snubby

Active member
The only people that complain about the price are the ones on the outside looking in. The new layout is amazing, none of the other competitors have anything close to that so trying to claim the design is a ripoff is absurd.
 

gator70

Active member
The only people that complain about the price are the ones on the outside looking in. The new layout is amazing, none of the other competitors have anything close to that so trying to claim the design is a ripoff is absurd.

Nice competitive options are available for less than half the price. The Ram 5500 / F550 platforms require more expensive options.

The design is a ripoff.

Knowing the final price, the supplier loads up on only the best. To justify the price.

These layouts can be delivered for circa $250K. Just not on Ram 5500 / F550 platforms

Even the highest quality habitats in Europe (Bliss Mobile) cost $132K. Then choose the truck platform. Mostly cab overs. (New $140K)


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SootyCamper

Active member
Nice competitive options are available for less than half the price. The Ram 5500 / F550 platforms require more expensive options.

The design is a ripoff.

Knowing the final price, the supplier loads up on only the best. To justify the price.

These layouts can be delivered for circa $250K. Just not on Ram 5500 / F550 platforms

Even the highest quality habitats in Europe (Bliss Mobile) cost $132K. Then choose the truck platform. Mostly cab overs. (New $140K)

Bliss Mobil units are all substantially more money than $132k.
 

MattScott

Approved Vendor
Nice competitive options are available for less than half the price. The Ram 5500 / F550 platforms require more expensive options.

The design is a ripoff.

Knowing the final price, the supplier loads up on only the best. To justify the price.

These layouts can be delivered for circa $250K. Just not on Ram 5500 / F550 platforms

Even the highest quality habitats in Europe (Bliss Mobile) cost $132K. Then choose the truck platform. Mostly cab overs. (New $140K)


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FWIW the LTx was first shown to current ER owners almost two years ago; that is why they are booked out for two years.

So saying the layout is a ripoff is not accurate as this existed first.
 

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