EMP jeep

Krisbarger

Observer
How far does one have to go back to get a jeep that would start after an EMP?

Would this not be the best choice for such an event?


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raven1911

Observer
Bang for the buck, if your really concerned about EMP, buy an old car or a modern car that can easily be converted to an old setup, like the early 2000's Chevy 4.3l v6, ford 5.0 in explorers, or the 318 v8 in dodges. I could be wrong, but I think dodge kept on to the old distributor ignition v8's for the longest times. For advanced mechanics, a electronically shifted automatic transmission can be easily driven without the computer. You just need to power the right sequence of shift solenoid to get a particular gear. ATSG manuals and a basic repair harness connector should get you in the right path.

If an EMP took out vehicles across the country, you having one that worked would be near useless as the roads would be chocked full of dead cars. Thus not allowing you anywhere to drive without hitting roadblocks of cars/trucks somewhere along your route. I think the Bicycle is the most useful tool in this aspect. You can go right between cars, and EMP will not have any effect on it.

I would think one of the best vehicles would be a motorcycle just simply for maneuverability. Just have spare electric parts shielded in an ammo can for protection to put on post EMP.
 

JIMBO

Expedition Leader
:sombrero: HG Wells has gotta lotta answers for ya-

:costumed-smiley-007:wings: JIMBO
 

broken1

Observer
I'm going to go ahead and drop this here:
http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2473-EMP_Commission-7MB.pdf
You could flip to page 115 (PDF page 131) read a few pages and then start liquidating the cases of tin foil you've been stockpiling...
Automobiles

The potential EMP vulnerability of automobiles derives from the use of built-in electronics
that support multiple automotive functions. Electronic components were first
introduced into automobiles in the late 1960s. As time passed and electronics technologies
evolved, electronic applications in automobiles proliferated. Modern automobiles
have as many as 100 microprocessors that control virtually all functions. While electronic
applications have proliferated within automobiles, so too have application standards and
electromagnetic interference and electromagnetic compatibility (EMI/EMC) practices.
Thus, while it might be expected that increased EMP vulnerability would accompany the
proliferated electronics applications, this trend, at least in part, is mitigated by the
increased application of EMI/EMC practices.

We tested a sample of 37 cars in an EMP simulation laboratory, with automobile vintages
ranging from 1986 through 2002. Automobiles of these vintages include extensive
electronics and represent a significant fraction of automobiles on the road today. The
testing was conducted by exposing running and nonrunning automobiles to sequentially
increasing EMP field intensities. If anomalous response (either temporary or permanent)
was observed, the testing of that particular automobile was stopped. If no anomalous
response was observed, the testing was continued up to the field intensity limits of the
simulation capability (approximately 50 kV/m).

Automobiles were subjected to EMP environments under both engine turned off and
engine turned on conditions. No effects were subsequently observed in those automobiles
that were not turned on during EMP exposure. The most serious effect observed on running
automobiles was that the motors in three cars stopped at field strengths of approximately
30 kV/m or above. In an actual EMP exposure, these vehicles would glide to a
stop and require the driver to restart them. Electronics in the dashboard of one automobile
were damaged and required repair. Other effects were relatively minor. Twenty-five
automobiles exhibited malfunctions that could be considered only a nuisance (e.g.,
blinking dashboard lights) and did not require driver intervention to correct. Eight of the
37 cars tested did not exhibit any anomalous response.

Based on these test results, we expect few automobile effects at EMP field levels below
25 kV/m. Approximately 10 percent or more of the automobiles exposed to higher field
levels may experience serious EMP effects, including engine stall, that require driver
intervention to correct. We further expect that at least two out of three automobiles on the
road will manifest some nuisance response at these higher field levels. The serious malfunctions
could trigger car crashes on U.S. highways; the nuisance malfunctions could
exacerbate this condition. The ultimate result of automobile EMP exposure could be triggered
crashes that damage many more vehicles than are damaged by the EMP, the consequent
loss of life, and multiple injuries.

or is that what they want you to believe? :coffeedrink:
 

FKreider

Observer
I have a Mercedes OM617 diesel in my jeep, it is all mechanical and only needs the battery for the starter, it can be pop started in the case of a bad battery. It will also run on waste veggie oil, perfect for SHTF
 

jscusmcvet

Explorer
I have a Mercedes OM617 diesel in my jeep, it is all mechanical and only needs the battery for the starter, it can be pop started in the case of a bad battery. It will also run on waste veggie oil, perfect for SHTF

Sweet. Build thread or info? Just sounds great, regardless of SHTF. My simple 18hp diesel in my little farm tractor is just as simple as you describe. rock solid durable and reliable. Love to hear more about your conversion.
 

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