tacollie
Glamper
Jewish Nazis!
EV acceptance is peaking
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crazysccrmd
Observer
The best kind.
NevadaLover
Forking Icehole
That ain't no EV!
JaSAn
Grumpy Old Man
With all the growing pains and additional infrastructure needed for EV's, I think hybrids make more sense. Let the early tech adopters sort the EV growing pains out.
With Ford, Cadillac, Honda, Audi, Renalt, Mercedes, Ferrari, et.al supplying Formula 1 with hybrid systems starting in 2026 I would expect to see a big jump in consumer hybrid vehicle performance a few years later.
With Ford, Cadillac, Honda, Audi, Renalt, Mercedes, Ferrari, et.al supplying Formula 1 with hybrid systems starting in 2026 I would expect to see a big jump in consumer hybrid vehicle performance a few years later.
life_w_vagabonds
Explorer
Let’s just focus on a small sliver of time and generate clicks…
Manufacturers don’t all report monthly sales and we are not even near the end of the first quarter. Perhaps people make different buying decisions at the end of the year, perhaps the change in tax credits, perhaps the adaptation of NACS (Tesla charging standard) that nearly every manufacturer announced last year that hasn’t happened yet.
Most manufacturers aren’t giving us what we want. Somehow they find more success in other markets. Stellantis for example builds dozens of affordable EVs available in Europe. In spite of not building the right form factors in the right price segments, EV sales are still going up, even in the US.
Manufacturers don’t all report monthly sales and we are not even near the end of the first quarter. Perhaps people make different buying decisions at the end of the year, perhaps the change in tax credits, perhaps the adaptation of NACS (Tesla charging standard) that nearly every manufacturer announced last year that hasn’t happened yet.
Most manufacturers aren’t giving us what we want. Somehow they find more success in other markets. Stellantis for example builds dozens of affordable EVs available in Europe. In spite of not building the right form factors in the right price segments, EV sales are still going up, even in the US.
NevadaLover
Forking Icehole
Manufacturers only supply what sells, history has proven that fact over and over, what sells in the european market doesn't sell as well in the NA market, the fiat 500 is a good example, it sold a limited number here until the "neatness" wore off then sat on the lot for months, mini cooper was another good example!
Americans as a whole want a "better" vehicle than other countries buy, whether it's actually a better vehicle or not is irrelevant, appearances are all that matter, manufacturers spend a lot of money trying to keep ahead of the market so they don't lose even more money making vehicles that never sell here, blaming the manufacturers for "not giving us what we want" is disingenuous at best and a total lie at worst.
life_w_vagabonds
Explorer
Yeah, no one here would want a Hilux over a Tacoma.
NevadaLover
Forking Icehole
Hilux is a slightly different beast and would never meet current NHTSA, CARB or CAFE requirements!
Keep trying though, maybe you can find a conspiracy that meets your needs.
life_w_vagabonds
Explorer
Clearly
Clearly auto execs, particularly in Detroit, have their fingers on the pulse of the consumer.
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NevadaLover
Forking Icehole
Failure is part of life, a mirror is proof of that for you, sometimes auto execs bet wrong on new designs, but in looking at current sales the execs know exactly how a model is selling and make decisions based on sales, when a model isn't selling well, as in base models and cheap designs, they drop that model, may take a little longer than it should but some models need to sell the remaining inventory.
But in the conspiracy theory land some inhabit, proof has no place and is totally ignored.
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life_w_vagabonds
Explorer
How do you prove a negative? Manufacturers sell none of the models they don’t produce.
No one buys a base model? Maybe they can’t find one to buy.
NevadaLover
Forking Icehole
They don't sell those models here, plenty of other markets to sell cheap, small models in around the world.
ThundahBeagle
Well-known member
I find it intriguing that a car brand historically known for iffy electrical systems is going it alone in the all-electric car manufacturing sector, but here goes!
ThundahBeagle
Well-known member
It wasn't?
life_w_vagabonds
Explorer
Volvo was bought by Geely, a Chinese EV manufacturer. Volvo trucks are a separate thing.