ExPo 4Runner empty 'Road Trip' MPG test Part 1: 20MPG! Downhill

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I thought of posting this in one of the active tire threads about the Cooper ST tires, or in the general modifications section, but this is more about the car, set-up, and its capabilities than just the tires currently on the platform.

The Test

Highway/Freeway road trip from Northwestern Nevada, over Donner Pass on I-80 to Sacramento, CA, Highway 99 South to the rural Visalia area. I have driven these roads many times in many vehicles. Today we left a bit earlier than usual and didn't encounter the typical stop-n-go traffic in the Sacramento metro area that hurts fuel economy.

After climbing up to the 7,200-ft Donner Pass from our starting elevation of 4,800-ft, the trip is largely downhill into the great valley of California. Yes there are many smaller hills to climb in the mountains but the elevation change from 7,000+ to almost sea level tells the story, we didn’t need lots of throttle to maintain a decent road speed much of the time. It will be more expensive to climb back up in Part 2. While I’m making sure I give the mountains and elevation its due for helping with the MPG, I have driven the same section of road fast and less smoothly in many vehicles several times and it costs extra fuel even when down hill.

The Vehicle

2006 V8 4Runner with full-time 4WD, OME suspension, bumpers, winch, skids, etc., weights 5,440-lbs wet, with no passenger. Add about 400-lbs for the two occupants and their overnight bags. Stock 3.73 gears, Cooper ST 255/85R16 tires with 32-PSI cold.

Cruise Control was used very little because of the Toyota programing that maintains speed at all costs, downshifting more that is desired. Cruise was used on flat ground for short distances to give the right leg a break.

The car uses Red Line synthetic oils throughout. 5W-30 in the engine, and 75w-90 in the differential and T-case. Transmission has the factory Toyota stuff inside.

Speed & Technique

The target speed was 65 or more MPH, but there was plenty of times when I drove faster, and a little time when I drove slower. I allowed the road speed to slow on grades, a few times as low as 55-60-MPH for very short distances, and on the downhill sections used gravity to my advantage and would accelerated to 70-75. Seventy-five was less common but 70 was fairly common on the steep downhill sections, it’s only about 2,000-RPM when the torque converter is completely locked-up. After hitting the California low lands 65-68 was about where I kept it for the majority of the miles.

I was hoping to buy and have a Scan Gauge installed before this trip, but it didn’t happen. Next time. I have not checked the odometer error with this new set of Cooper ST tires, but have checked it with a couple other sets of 255/85 on this car and the odometer has been 9-10% slow. I used 9%, which should be very close.

This was a pure highway trip. Filled up the night before, drove 2-miles from the gas station to home before leaving Friday AM. We made two stops during the trip, and didn’t stray too far from the freeway exits.

Distance Traveled: 318.71 miles

87 Octane Fuel Used: 15.902 gallons

MPG: 20.04

The MPG display on the stock trip computer was as high was 19.4 after coming out of the mountains. We then drove about two hundred more miles and lowered to 19.0 (flirting with 18.9). I experimented a bit with 70-MPG and 60-63 MPH for a few miles on the flat. The 70+ started eating fuel and it showed on the display. 60 is too slow to drive on the highway and 62-63 didn’t seem to be helping MPG enough to keep it there. The engine was turning about 1800-RPM at 66-MPH which seemed to work well.

Part 2 (Monday)

On the return trip on Monday I project that we will only get 15-17-MPG returning via the same route if I am able to drive in a similar fashion and speed. This will depend on weather, traffic, and if we are late for getting home. If I’m only able to squeeze out 15-MPG while climbing back up the mountains (very likely) out total trip average will be 17.5-MPG!
 
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I can still manage 21-22 mpg at 65-70 with the cruise on on flat ground. If I drive my 4Runner to work (it has a ton of hills), I'm lucky to get 15 mpg.
 
Is that with your 285/75R16 tires listed on your page? If so that is very good.

My Mall Crawler didn't get much better on a short, 55-mile, baseline freeway test when it was bone stock. I didn't test for odometer error when it was stock, but it was damn close. The base line stock test for 55.8 miles at 65 MPH on my GPS was 20.94. Surely it could have done better on a long downhill test like yesterday.

Recently I repeated the baseline freeway test with my Maxxis Bravo AT tires, using crusie control (same as when stock) and only obtained up with 18.36.

When I can break the 20-MPG barrier, even under ideal conditions, I'm impressed. The Crawler is heavy, modified, and AWD.

CA-RJ said:
I can still manage 21-22 mpg at 65-70 with the cruise on on flat ground. If I drive my 4Runner to work (it has a ton of hills), I'm lucky to get 15 mpg.
 
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MPG testing

Redline,
More great information. Looking forward to read how you make out on the way home.
Cheers,
P
 
Yeah, that's with my 285's. I wouldn't have believed it either, but two different 700 mile trips confirmed what my Scan Gauge was telling me.

20 mpg with your V8 and AWD is very impressive.
 
Part 2: Uphill Return Trip and Averages

After a couple day layover visiting today we retraced our tracks for part two of my test. Everything was the same: Vehicle, Tire PSI (not touched) passengers, etc., only the direction of travel was reversed. No Stop & Go or heavy traffic was encountered.

The trip home included two stops after fueling, one for coffee and another for lunch. On the coffee stop we stayed very close to the freeway. The lunch stop involved about 10-miles of suburban/highway surface streets and several stop lights. This was after we had just started to climb up out of the California Central Valley and our MPG on the (stock) trip computer display had started to fall.

The Drive:

The start of Part 2 was on Highway 99, a mostly flat highway. Road speeds were about the same in the flats: mostly 66-68 MPH without cruise control. I did attempt to use cruise control a bit more but had to abort this practice. With the 5-speed auto trans and the Toyota programing the tranny downshifts quickly, even on minor grades, though the trans never downshifts quickly when I don't use cruise control and just hold a steady throttle. I only used cruise control briefly to rest my foot and when I thought I wouldn't suffer a MPG penalty. While experimenting with cruise, 68-MPH (true GPS speed) was about as fast as I could go without the cruise control eating extra fuel. Even when cruise control was okay and not downshifting I think I can 'out drive it'. Cruise automatically slows the car and cuts fuel on a downgrade, no matter how slight, to maintain a set speed. When I control the car I can let the vehicle gain a little extra speed and momentum on a short downgrade just as I can let it lose a little speed on an upgrade. More speed (at times) using less fuel and more flexibility to adjust to and move around other traffic.

PCM Display & Miles:

After 215-miles and just before climbing into the sierra foothills the trip computer was displaying 17.4-MPG (not adjusted for tires size). As we started to climb we lost a bit of MPG and we also stopped for lunch. After lunch we continued up into the high sierras. At mile 283, after reaching the 7,227-foot Donner Pass, the PCM display was down to 15.7-MPG.

Mountain Driving:

As with the trip 'downhill' while in the mountains I would let the car lose speed on grades and use gravity to gain speed down the other side. The slowest speed was about 55-MPH on one steep hill before a downshift out of 5th, but mostly our lowest speeds were 60-62. I started manually downshifting to 4th on steeper grades before too much momentum was lost and tried to maintain a road speed of about 63-64-MPH unless the grade was severe. Higher peak speeds were reached compared to the flatland were we never drove more than 70. We hit 75 several times while using gravity in the mountains. The average road speed per the (uncorrected) trip computer indicated approximately 62-MPH, this is including all stops, idling and key-on time, but really we drove about 64-68 as I indicated above.

Upon reaching our destination we fueled at the same gas station: 320.789-miles (indicated trip plus 9%).
PCM MPG display was back up to 16.3-MPG.
Fuel used was 18.438-gallons.
True MPG 17.398

Trip Averages:

Part 1 20.04251 MPG
Part 2 17.398145 MPG

Round Trip 18.72 MPG

Again, this is almost all highway miles with few stops, but it almost reaches the stock rig EPA rating of 19-MPH highway! I find it fun and interesting to focus on my driving, the machine and to have a goal. Sometimes the goal is MPG, and some times it’s to Go Fast ☺

James



Redline said:
I thought of posting this in one of the active tire threads about the Cooper ST tires, or in the general modifications section, but this is more about the car, set-up, and its capabilities than just the tires currently on the platform.

The Test

Highway/Freeway road trip from Northwestern Nevada, over Donner Pass on I-80 to Sacramento, CA, Highway 99 South to the rural Visalia area. I have driven these roads many times in many vehicles. Today we left a bit earlier than usual and didn't encounter the typical stop-n-go traffic in the Sacramento metro area that hurts fuel economy.

After climbing up to the 7,200-ft Donner Pass from our starting elevation of 4,800-ft, the trip is largely downhill into the great valley of California. Yes there are many smaller hills to climb in the mountains but the elevation change from 7,000+ to almost sea level tells the story, we didn’t need lots of throttle to maintain a decent road speed much of the time. It will be more expensive to climb back up in Part 2. While I’m making sure I give the mountains and elevation its due for helping with the MPG, I have driven the same section of road fast and less smoothly in many vehicles several times and it costs extra fuel even when down hill.

The Vehicle

2006 V8 4Runner with full-time 4WD, OME suspension, bumpers, winch, skids, etc., weights 5,440-lbs wet, with no passenger. Add about 400-lbs for the two occupants and their overnight bags. Stock 3.73 gears, Cooper ST 255/85R16 tires with 32-PSI cold.

Cruise Control was used very little because of the Toyota programing that maintains speed at all costs, downshifting more that is desired. Cruise was used on flat ground for short distances to give the right leg a break.

The car uses Red Line synthetic oils throughout. 5W-30 in the engine, and 75w-90 in the differential and T-case. Transmission has the factory Toyota stuff inside.

Speed & Technique

The target speed was 65 or more MPH, but there was plenty of times when I drove faster, and a little time when I drove slower. I allowed the road speed to slow on grades, a few times as low as 55-60-MPH for very short distances, and on the downhill sections used gravity to my advantage and would accelerated to 70-75. Seventy-five was less common but 70 was fairly common on the steep downhill sections, it’s only about 2,000-RPM when the torque converter to completely locked-up. After hitting the California low lands 65-68 was about where I kept it for the majority of the miles.

I was hoping to buy and have a Scan Gauge installed before this trip, but it didn’t happen. Next time. I have not checked the odometer error with this new set of Cooper ST tires, but have checked it with a couple other sets of 255/85 on this car and the odometer has been 9-10% slow. I used 9%, which should be very close.

This was a pure highway trip. Filled up the night before, drove 2-miles from the gas station to home before leaving Friday AM. We made two stops during the trip, and didn’t stray too far from the freeway exits.

Distance Traveled: 318.71 miles

87 Octane Fuel Used: 15.902 gallons

MPG: 20.04

The MPG display on the stock trip computer was as high was 19.4 after coming out of the mountains. We then drove about two hundred more miles and lowered to 19.0 (flirting with 18.9). I experimented a bit with 70-MPG and 60-63 MPH for a few miles on the flat. The 70+ started eating fuel and it showed on the display. 60 is too slow to drive on the highway and 62-63 didn’t seem to be helping MPG enough to keep it there. The engine was turning about 1800-RPM at 66-MPH which seemed to work well.

Part 2 (Monday)

On the return trip on Monday I project that we will only get 15-17-MPG returning via the same route if I am able to drive in a similar fashion and speed. This will depend on weather, traffic, and if we are late for getting home. If I’m only able to squeeze out 15-MPG while climbing back up the mountains (very likely) out total trip average will be 17.5-MPG!
 
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Very cool write up James, I enjoyed the read. I will try to duplicate this test sometime in my less modified V6 sometime soon. I'm interested in the comparison.

Have you switched your transfer case and diff fluid to synthetic? I recently put Mobile1 in both and have noticed 1+mpg increase.
 
I'm interested in what you can obtain too.

All fluids are synthetic. Only fluid I have not changed is the tranny oil.

Ryanmb21 said:
Very cool write up James, I enjoyed the read. I will try to duplicate this test sometime in my less modified V6 sometime soon. I'm interested in the comparison.

Have you switched your transfer case and diff fluid to synthetic? I recently put Mobile1 in both and have noticed 1+mpg increase.
 

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