FG84 Workshop Manual

[bptp7270]

Just wondering if anyone would know where I can get a workshop manual for the FG84. I have googled and googled and so far found nothing.

 

[SkiFreak]

The service manual for the FG84 is split over three CD-ROMs and they are available from any dealer.
Unfortunately, they are not cheap.
I would also be interested in getting a copy of these, should anyone have a set and be willing to share.

 

[PKDreamers]

Hi,
These part numbers are for OZ.

Engine Manual
Part Number: MTACD032

Chassis Manual
Part Number: MTACD035


Electrical manual
Part Number: MTACD031

Canter Owner's Manual (Part Number - MH997470)

Canter Warranty & Service (Part Number - MTA000087)

I hope this helps.

 

[bptp7270]

I've given on finding any other source for the manuals and have taken PK's part numbers to the dealer and ordered the 3 main cd's.

 

[bptp7270]

Picked up my workshop manual on 3 cd's from the dealer today. I wouldn't mind the profit margin on these things. Have had a quick look through them and they seem quite comprehensive and the link feature from the index makes them very easy to use. Now I can pull my dash apart to replace the radio without breaking anything.

 

[whatcharterboat]

Now I can pull my dash apart to replace the radio without breaking anything.

Hey Tasweigan,

Let me guess......you still have the old cassette player.

............On a 649, start removing panels from the FAR LEFT where the washer bottle is and work your way over to the RIGHT......every lower panel...........anything that doesn't have a screw unclips by pulling straight out towards you........don't forget 3 screws around the fuse panel cover..........then and only then pop the dash surround off too and don't forget the 2 little countersunk screws up under the lip above the instruments........if you are pulling the steering column cover off make sure you put it back on with the only 2 really short screws out of the lot and don't get them mixed up cause a long screw has the chance of shorting wiring.......undo the whole double Din bracket with the radio as one whole assmbly removing the antenna plug from the rear at the same time.........the main power / audio harness should have enough length on it to undo once you have the radio and bracket out.........what else?..might have missed the screws behind the ashtray and cupholder......hmm ....I think that was right. It's been a while........the OEM double Din bracket has an assortment of holes that will align with most aftermarket audio units..........I used to remember the audio harness wiring colours off by heart but my brain hurts now just thinking about a 649.......haha.


Oh..........GO THE MAROONS!!!!!!

 

[bptp7270]

Hi Whatchaterboat,

Dont let the photo at the top trick you. That is my old truck, my FG84 is the dual cab you put the single wheels on at CJD recently. I want to upgrade the single cd player to something from this century and that plastic in the dash scratches like its having an alergic reaction every time you touch it. You are correct about the fg649 dash, as I stumbled through a complete removal of the one in my old truck to replace about 20 tiny globes in the gauge cluster, I realised there is a definate order to getting the thing apart. The manual has a numbered sequence for the radio removal of the new truck, but it appears that there is still a lot of bits to remove just to get the radio out so any advice would be welcome. By the way, the flares look great and really finish off the SRW conversion.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, we are lucky in this AFL obsessed state to get the state of origin live from victoria and as ex QUEENSLANDERS we say go the maroons and bring on 10 in a row!!!

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hey mate,

Dont let the photo at the top trick you. That is my old truck, my FG84 is the dual cab you put the single wheels on at CJD recently.

Arrr yeah. That's right. Sorry.

I want to upgrade the single cd player to something from this century and that plastic in the dash scratches like its having an alergic reaction every time you touch it.

Yeah............those VMS units with the dual nav are awesome if you've got the need and the bucks with a couple of quality speakers in the doors and overhead. .....definitely x 2 on the plastic. Has made more some more than embarrassing moments at work.

You are correct about the fg649 dash, as I stumbled through a complete removal of the one in my old truck to replace about 20 tiny globes in the gauge cluster, I realised there is a definate order to getting the thing apart. The manual has a numbered sequence for the radio removal of the new truck, but it appears that there is still a lot of bits to remove just to get the radio out so any advice would be welcome

. It's still miles better than the old model.

By the way, the flares look great and really finish off the SRW conversion.

No worries.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, we are lucky in this AFL obsessed state to get the state of origin live from victoria and as ex QUEENSLANDERS we say go the maroons and bring on 10 in a row!!!

Can I just say that a certain ATW staff member who organises all the SRW conversions (so I'm sure you know who I mean) lost bets all over town last night. Make sure you pay out if you ever get the chance. Haha.

Regards John.

 

[bptp7270]

Hi John,

I cant believe anyone in their right mind would have backed against Lockyer and co.
The tyres are a big improvement to the overall quietness of the truck and economy is improved. I get up a few dirt tracks and all the advantages of single rears are evident. People are amazed at what this thing will climb. The only minor negative is a slight loss of the "zippyness" that the it had with the smaller wheels, but the performance is still streets ahead of the 649 and the larger diameter wheels look like thats what it should have had from the factory. I wouldn't mind some more agressive tyres if they ever become available and I am waiting patiently for the arrival of your parabolics with a set of the "you beaut" shocks. Are you also progressing with the DIY coil kit?

Anthony

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi Anthony,

I wouldn't mind some more aggressive tyres if they ever become available

No worries..........I'll let you know. We have already talked to tyre manufacturers regarding the co-development of a 19.5 M/T with anti-chip compound and importantly a decent load rating. ........ .it will be a long way down the track but we are on to it............. Load rating has always been a bigger factor for us than most understand and one of the reasons why the same tyres on your your truck are so incredibly reliable on expo-style trucks heading into the outback.

I have to be careful.....there is so much going on behind the scenes that I am not at liberty to disclose............ cause we probably let the cat out of the bag way too early regarding the parabolics and I personally must apologize......especially to Ozzyfishaman and others and obviously thank them all for their patience .We had to make some tough decisions that has almost doubled the R&D time and while it has been absolutely frustrating , we are so happy now that they weren't rushed and were at last done exactly to our specs and drawings.

and I am waiting patiently for the arrival of your parabolics with a set of the "you beaut" shocks.

Well this may help. These photos of the pre - production batch were taken this morning........enough for 3 x FG's and 3 x NPS's. The first big production batch will take approximately a month to put together.

This is a front set for a Fuso FG on the test jig. We are building our own jig especially to confirm that each set will match axle weights provided by the customers prior to fitting. Cool huh? Will post some pics in the FGs in Action thread when we test.

Fuso Rear (FR) in the foreground....Isuzu Rear (IR) in the background.

Here is some more info >> http://www.allterrainwarriors.com.au/component/content/article/25.html

Are you also progressing with the DIY coil kit?

The coils are already at a stage that everything bolts in.........even the diff brackets. Give that Blues supporter a call if you're interested ......... I just had a terrible thought. We should have painted those parabolics Maroon instead.

 

[bptp7270]

Hi John,

Can you say if the parabolics will have more clearance to the front bump stops and will they provide more travel than the factory spirings.

Thanks

Anthony

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi Anthony.......it's around 70mm lift over standard with more travel and we're looking at Aeon-style bump stops as part of a complete parabolic conversion too. The shocks will have to be be specially valved to suit. More like 45:55 / comp:rebound rate but thats just an easy internal valve change.

OEM and even conventional aftermarket multi leaf suspension shocks on these trucks need completely different valving. More like 10:90 or even more differential if you can get it, purely because of how short the packs are they are and how much friction is involved, you don't want any resistance at all, they already have too much even with no shocks , that's why they are so jarring to ride in when you hit a pothole or corrugations........then due to the uncontrollable rebound characteristic of a that style of spring, you have to try like hell to slow that action with the most shockabsorber resistance you can get ........... and that's why everything out of the overhead shelf always ends up in your lap when you go over a big whoopee bump.

How did I get on to that Anthony? Could have just said 70mm. My son just fed me a handful of red Snakes. Must be the sugar rush. Whoa. John.

 

[bptp7270]

Hi Anthony.......it's around 70mm lift over standard with more travel and we're looking at Aeon-style bump stops as part of a complete parabolic conversion too. The shocks will have to be be specially valved to suit. More like 45:55 / comp:rebound rate but thats just an easy internal valve change.

OEM and even conventional aftermarket multi leaf suspension shocks on these trucks need completely different valving. More like 10:90 or even more differential if you can get it, purely because of how short the packs are they are and how much friction is involved, you don't want any resistance at all, they already have too much even with no shocks , that's why they are so jarring to ride in when you hit a pothole or corrugations........then due to the uncontrollable rebound characteristic of a that style of spring, you have to try like hell to slow that action with the most shockabsorber resistance you can get ........... and that's why everything out of the overhead shelf always ends up in your lap when you go over a big whoopee bump.

How did I get on to that Anthony? Could have just said 70mm. My son just fed me a handful of red Snakes. Must be the sugar rush. Whoa. John.

Hi John,

I must send your son a handfull of red snakes(Allens of course) to thank him for the simplest explanation of the suspension issues with these trucks that I have heard and understood so far. Aside from the fact that you are not seated over the spring, I have an old FJ60 that I use for play and it rides like a limo in comparison. I am guessing that by your calculations, my front end will have at least 71mm clearance to the bump stop and the rebound wont try to eject me from the drivers seat.

Anthony

 

[whatcharterboat]

Aside from the fact that you are not seated over the spring

Oh absolutely......While that isn't the actual problem, it certainly magnifies everything and just gives you an even bigger reason to fix it.

And yeah......I'm sure he'd go for that. We only ever feed them lights and rarely too......Natural Confectionery Co. He'd be running up the walls with heavy strength Allens. Hahahaha.



Well if you have a look at a new cab chassis in a yard , they have around 40mm I guess.........but that lasts about a day once the trucks get go to 6 ton and you end up with 10mm if you are lucky. Crewcabs are always heavy on the front too....especially with a bar and winch, etc.

The parabolics have got these tricky over-riders underneath on the rear which they should land on before slamming into the bumpstops and like I said......we're hoping to go to Aeon bump stops at the front as part of the kit.

 

[dhackney]

Sorry I didn't see this at the time of the OP.

If you are still looking to open up the dash to swap the radio, photos of the process are here:
http://www.hackneys.com/mitsu/photos/buildup_album_22/index2.htm