FJ80 winch advice, do i need to us my M12000 or something smaller

[Thirty-Nine]

One thing to keep in mind, by the way, is the M12000 is a large-frame winch and mounts feet forward. An M8000 is a mid-frame winch, which mounts feet-down. Be sure to take that into consideration if you opt for a different winch—you might need a different mounting system.

Andy

 

[rc51kid]

One thing to keep in mind, by the way, is the M12000 is a large-frame winch and mounts feet forward. An M8000 is a mid-frame winch, which mounts feet-down. Be sure to take that into consideration if you opt for a different winch—you might need a different mounting system.

Andy

You are right. The 12000 had the feet forward. My winch plate is set up for feet forward. Couldn't i mount a M8000 feet forward and just rotate the controls?

 

[LR Max]

There is a Warn guy here on the board, forgot his name. Surprised he hasn't chimed in. Anywho, do a bit of searching and PM him. I am 99% sure you can because the controls on my M12000 are rotated.

 

[rc51kid]

This is getting a little complicated. The problem with using the M12000 is that it is too "deep" and hits the body. The PO mounted the bumper forward a inch or so the clear the body with the winch. I have it apart and in some pieces now. I might just mount up the drum support to the bumper and see really how much it all needs to be slid forward to clear the body. If it is only a little bit and it still bolts up right i might just stick with the M12000.

 

[Thirty-Nine]

You are right. The 12000 had the feet forward. My winch plate is set up for feet forward. Couldn't i mount a M8000 feet forward and just rotate the controls?

Yes, you can. However, the mounting bolt pattern is different between the M8000 and M12000, too. The specs can be found on Warn's website (http://warn.com).

There is a Warn guy here on the board, forgot his name. Surprised he hasn't chimed in.

Actually, that was me. However, I no longer work at Warn. I am sure there will be a new official WARN rep for the company coming on here at some point, however.

Andy

 

[rc51kid]

Yes, you can. However, the mounting bolt pattern is different between the M8000 and M12000, too. The specs can be found on Warn's website (http://warn.com).


Actually, that was me. However, I no longer work at Warn. I am sure there will be a new official WARN rep for the company coming on here at some point, however.

Andy

It looks to me like they are both 10x4.5" But i could be wrong

 

[Thirty-Nine]

It looks to me like they are both 10x4.5" But i could be wrong

Oops; you're right. Same bolt pattern (I was thinking of the larger frame UTV winches).

 

[Westy]

Unless you winch a lot or anticipate needing to do frequent heavy pulls get a smaller winch. Less weight, better fit to the application/bumper and bring proper recovery gear.

 

[RangeBrover]

We had to pull an 80 out of a ditch this weekend at Red Cloud Offroad park, a 100 series with a m8000 couldn't get the job done.

 

[Thirty-Nine]

FWIW, Warn's formula is 1.5 x GVWR = minimum pulling capacity.

 

[Antichrist]

We had to pull an 80 out of a ditch this weekend at Red Cloud Offroad park, a 100 series with a m8000 couldn't get the job done.

That really doesn't say much.
Based on no information my guess would be that more than likely it was a rigging issue, rather than a winch issue.

 

[RangeBrover]

That really doesn't say much.
Based on no information my guess would be that more than likely it was a rigging issue, rather than a winch issue.

It was a straight pull with about 50 feet of cable pulled out. Take it however you like.

 

[Antichrist]

Yeah, sorta what I figured. About 6500-7000lb max pull.
Unless it was especially stuck a snatch block would probably have let the M8000 do it fine. At a 50' distance between vehicles the addition of a snatch block would have given a 16,000lb pull.

 

[Thirty-Nine]

Another thing to remember is that the maximum pulling capacity of the winch is at the first later of rope. So if you don't have the vast majority of your line out, you won't get the full pull. Regardless, snatch blocks make a huge difference.

I used my WARN VR8000-S to do a winching demonstration at last year's Overland Rallies and Workshops in Washington. My Suzuki with this winch was able to pull a Sportsmobile in park with the e-brake set. Who doesn't love some mechanical advantage?

Andy

 

[Jed74]

Anything I've ever read about choosing the right size is to figure out the weight of your rig with all you equipment and times it by 1.5. The extra capacity is to over come the drag of whatever has you stuck I the first place.