Fly Fishing

Brian McVickers

Administrator
Staff member
With the temperatures cooling down in the Phoenix area over the next couple of months I’m itching to get out fly fishing.
I believe others on the forum are interested in fly fishing and some are very knowledgeable of fishing the AZ area so I figured
we could start a general fly fishing thread to share information and ultimately get together to wade some streams and wet a line!


I have mainly had experience fishing small Midwest rivers and creeks as well as Southeast and Caribbean saltwater.
I tie my own flies but also carry a failsafe box of store bought local recommendations just in case!
Rods include 4wt, 5/6wt, 8wt, 10wt (for sale), 12wt (for sale)


Where are some nice fly fishing areas within a daytrip of Phoenix?:jumping:


Brian
 

BajaTaco

Swashbuckler
"flywgn" is our resident Lord of the Fly!

:jumping:

He is a fly flickin', fish catchin' yogi-guru son of a gun. Be sure to talk to him :costumed-smiley-007
 

Scott Brady

Founder
I have a Scientific reel and some weight rod. You guys are going to laugh at me when you see my skills... Pretty scary and quite safe for the fish (not the fisherman) :costumed-smiley-007
 

seth_js

Explorer
Hey Brian,

The good fly fishing in AZ really isn't within daytrip range of the valley. You will want to head out to the white mountains (San Carlos Apache Reservation, White Mountain Apache Reservation, and Apache Sitgreaves National Forest). If you plan on fishing the lakes, I highly recommend a tube.

You can also try out the rim lakes, but I've never had much luck up there and I don't like crowds. :p
 

datrupr

Expedition Leader
expeditionswest said:
I have a Scientific reel and some weight rod. You guys are going to laugh at me when you see my skills... Pretty scary and quite safe for the fish (not the fisherman) :costumed-smiley-007

Well Scott, you are still up on me here. I have never cast a fly line in my life, but would love to learn. One of these days amigo's, one of these days.
 

Jonathan Hanson

Well-known member
I've always been fascinated by fly fishing. However, as a Tucson boy I had to accept that on a cost/benefit/opportunity basis it just wasn't a good investment of time or money.

I was in a shop in Cody, Wyoming a few years ago, while doing a story on the Bighorn Mountains. The owner told me, "There's a thousand miles of fly fishing within an hour of Cody." I thought for a moment, then said, "Well, there's an hour of fly fishing within a thousand miles of Tucson . . ."

I do have a nice 5-weight rod given me by a friend. So you never know.
 

crawler#976

Expedition Leader
define "day" trip :D

I use a 5W '9 rod for everything here in AZ. Only places it doesn't work well is on some of the tighter streams, but I've found it works well as a sling shot too.

My favorite float tube fly fishing is in the White Mountains on the White Mountain Apache Reservation. Solitude, 'Bows, Brownie's, and Apache Trout in the same lakes, Apache and Brownie's in the streams, and awesome scenery abound.

The Prescott area has several small lake, but the fishing has been really grim.

Williams, AZ. has several lakes that can offer great fishing, but currently the water levels are very low. Look up JD Dam for one catch and release only pond that's unfortunately becoming more popular. There are several other C&R ponds in the area.

The Phx area offers some very unique challenges - the north end of Lake Pleasant being one of them. Chuckin' big streamers at (cough, cough) Carp of all things. Very similar to what your used to from the salt water flats fishing for bonefish. Big heavy fish that fight like hell. The eastern Phx Metro lakes offer top water fishing for Bass - another good place for your heavy weight rods.

I'm not up on the Rim lakes near Payson and on over to Pine Top.

later!

Mark
 

seth_js

Explorer
seth_js said:
You can also try out the rim lakes, but I've never had much luck up there and I don't like crowds. :p

Was just reading some reports, and it looks like Canyon Creek is producing well. That's up on the rim and could easily be a day trip.
 

datrupr

Expedition Leader
Out of habit (or maybe just longing) I go into Sportsman's about every other week, and they post up the most current fishing, stream/river and lake conditions. It is fun to see what is happening. Most of the lakes are still pretty low.
 

Bergger

Explorer
Don't know anything about Arizona but in Colorado every day is a good day for fly fishing! I can drive 5 minutes or 5 hours depending on where I want to go. I'll be taking my daughter on her first fly fishing trip tomorrow. It should be fun! She'll probably be more interested in all the horses and cows that'll be walking around us than the fish.
 

Brian McVickers

Administrator
Staff member
Cool, A kids first fishing trip is always fun, but a Fly Fishing trip - Wow that's just awesome! What a great skill to be exposed to early.:luxhello:
Have fun and good luck!
 

Bergger

Explorer
Yeah, she's been spin fishing since about 3 and loves that, outfished me last time! She's now 8 and she has expressed interest in fly fishing so we're heading up to the mountains for 2 nights. Hopefully I'll get a fishing partner out of this. Of course she told me she'd need her own fishing vest before she could go! And that was bought yesterday.
 

flywgn

Explorer
BajaTaco said:
"flywgn" is our resident Lord of the Fly!
...He is a fly flickin', fish catchin' yogi-guru son of a gun. Be sure to talk to him...

BT, you're too much.

I can't live up to that stuff. I love fly-fishing, and so does Diana. My first rod was given to me in 1951 and I've flailed a lot of water since then. Exposure to something hardly qualifies one as a ‘guru'. I'd be embarrassed to tell you how many fly-rods and reels we now own—and use, moreover—but it's like any other hobby/pastime, you're always adding to the kit. Sort of like owning an expedition vehicle.

It is true though that one of the main attractions for our recent move to Idaho was to be nearer good trout water. (We're only 30 minutes from Silver Creek, for one. Then there's the Big Wood, the Salmon, Lost River, Henry's Fork, the Madison… . Uh ohhh, there I go.

Brian, there's a dearth of ‘daytrips' from PHX, as Seth has pointed out. You can, however, get into the Salt River below the Stewart Mountain Dam. This time of year the mornings would be best since the water would remain cool near the surface for a couple of hours after sunrise. Use small (size 20 – 24) flies. Maybe a Trico, or if you want to drift a nymph use a Trico Nymph. As the morning wears on you can always toss out a caddis (Hare's Ear or similar) and if you cast enough times you can create your own ‘hatch'.

The Salt here is a tailwater fishery and therefore the river just below the dam is quite cold.

I haven't fished the Salt recently, and I know that there were plans to make some adjustments to the fishing regulations and, worse, extend the floaters' section. You might want to give the AZ Fish and Game a call before you go, or, as Aaron suggests, give the guys at Sportsman's a call.

Oak Creek is not too far for a day trip, but you'll have a long drive and you MUST avoid the weekends on both of these steams.

There are a couple of lakes near PHX, i.e. Saguaro, Canyon, and Apache and I've heard that they hold some nice trout—bass, too, for that matter—but I imagine that this time of year you must float and fish deep, not the fly-fishing that I enjoy. Heck, though, a fish on the end of a fly-line can be good under many circumstances.

All of this is predicated by the fact that it's difficult to find the cold water w/in a day's drive of PHX. Seth gave some good suggestions if you can spend a night or two, and, if that is an option, the Colorado River at Lee's Ferry, while not harboring the fish that it did years ago, still has really nice fish in it. The guys at Lee's Ferry Fly Shop can give you info about the current activity there. I stopped by a few weeks ago and they told me that their clients were catching lots of fish but not big sizes.

Allen
aka fly flickin', fish catchin' yogi-guru son of a gun*

*I think 'fly-flickin' and 'son-of-a-gun' are the only parts that fit. :)
 

GunnIt

Adventurer
Lees Ferry

As the previous post mentions, Lees Ferry can provide some great fly fishing opportunities. The fishing here this spring has been better than I have seen in several years. I've been guiding here for 25 years so I have seen good years and bad. You will not find a better place to combine a fly fishing trip and a outdoor 4-wheel camping trip than this area. I have recently been exploring the Paria Plateau and it may very well be the wildest accessible country in the US. See a photo taken from the top of the cliffs here: (133 mile drive, 100 miles of dirt road to end up 3.3 miles from and 3,300 ft above my house, in the right center of the photo)
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http://www.terrygunn.com/gallery/1694630/1/129208867/large
Or you can do a back-road trip to all the Grand Canyon overlooks that few people see each year. Photo here:
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http://www.terrygunn.com/gallery/1694630/1/98613028/Large

Be sure to stop by my fly shop and lodge, Lees Ferry Anglers and Cliff Dwellers Lodge for some good advice and great food, (shameless pug).
 

flywgn

Explorer
Terry, you sneaky son-of-a-guNN... :) Is that really you? Surfing the web, I see.

I've stopped by your shop a couple of times over the past year (while making the move from Prescott to Shoshone) but missed you each time. You were probably out having fun.

I did obtain most of the info that I posted above from your shop, though.

Good to hear about this spring. Dang, now that I no longer have an AZ license...! I'll still give you a call. We'll be heading that direction later this month, but I want to stop off and dabble a bit in a UT stream on the way.

Welcome to ExPo. There's a great bunch of folks here, writer of this post excepted, and you'll enjoy meeting them.

Allen R
(The erstwhile "Alexander Stuart Campbell", of The Royal Coachman)

PS Terry, I couldn't get your links to work w/o a cut-and-paste. BTW, Diana and I have had Paria Plateau on our short list for years. Maybe this spring is the time to haul down "Harry" (our Horizon/Chaser) and have a look. We'll call after I finish our taxes.
 
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