Ford F700 Build

Ford Prefect

Expedition Leader
I have serious doubts the rig will be moving fast enough to create that amount of drag. Any mounting system that's stronger than duct tape would work. The trick is making it weatherproof and rigid enough to sustain the pounding sure to happen on dirt tracks and washboards.

I agree that the washboard is going to be hard on the plane.

The thought of the thing catching wind, though... I do not know where you are from Matthew, but we get 80 mph winds here just parked. Driving into that at 40mph means you are getting 120mph pressure on that truck. Small planes here can literally take off without removing the wheel chalks. They have proven it... Just saying...

A thought came to me though... What is the strength of the base of your plane like? Most of that plane is made from really thing metal that would rip under any serious effort. Would it be wise for you to lay down a 1/8th to 1/4 thick flat piece of aluminum to bolt through to the truck? This would then (in my mind) be like spreading the load around the plane like one massive washer?

Am I nuts, or would this work?

Regards,
 

That One Guy

Adventurer
I agree that the washboard is going to be hard on the plane.

The thought of the thing catching wind, though... I do not know where you are from Matthew, but we get 80 mph winds here just parked. Driving into that at 40mph means you are getting 120mph pressure on that truck. Small planes here can literally take off without removing the wheel chalks. They have proven it... Just saying...

A thought came to me though... What is the strength of the base of your plane like? Most of that plane is made from really thing metal that would rip under any serious effort. Would it be wise for you to lay down a 1/8th to 1/4 thick flat piece of aluminum to bolt through to the truck? This would then (in my mind) be like spreading the load around the plane like one massive washer?

Am I nuts, or would this work?

Regards,

Small planes here can literally take off without removing the wheel chalks... if they have wings. Without wings there is no lift. If anything the wind would MAYBE put some stress on the front and back of the plane, but it's aerodynamic, it's MADE to have wind just swoop by it. I really see no issue with lift here.
 

Ford Prefect

Expedition Leader
That One Guy,

You did not read my first comment. I said the plane would not have lift like with a wing, but like anything you strap to the roof of your car, such as a mattress, or a sheet of plywood, you are going to get the thing trying to lift up off of the truck. With it sticking out over the glass of the cabin you are going to get even more, no matter what it is made of or looks like. That is all I am saying.
 

RoosterBooster

Observer
a airplane fuselage grafted to the rig ??? :Wow1:

that is something different ...... i love it !!! :wings:

how about using the wing roots as mounts (just about the strongest point on a aircraft)

or if you plan to cut that area use large formed aluminum pieces with lots of rivets to spread the load.
spreading the load to the thin alclad skin and trying to get into as many spars as possible at the same time is essential if you work with a light fuselage.
 

That One Guy

Adventurer
I thought he was going to have it mounted in the middle of the roof, with nothing overhanging. If it hung over the edge I could understand that, but the only reason a matress or a sheet of plywood would try to peel off the roof is because air can get under them.
 

hdemetrious

Adventurer
I have finished cutting the fuselage to the desired height and length. This is what it looks like.

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I still need to build a floor. I plan on riveting angle aluminum around the buttom of the plane. And then welding the angle to a sheet of aluminum. Then I will add supports under the sheet of aluminum. The fuselage will extend about a foot beyond the windshield. I will leave an inch or two gap between the buttom of the plane and the truck roof.
 

westyss

Explorer
I thought he was going to have it mounted in the middle of the roof, with nothing overhanging. If it hung over the edge I could understand that, but the only reason a matress or a sheet of plywood would try to peel off the roof is because air can get under them.

Sort of but not exact, almost any shaped object with enough airflow over it will produce lift, a component of Bernoulli's law, even aircraft fuselages will generate lift (look at the side profile of the fuselage, shaped like a wing) the other component is Newton's laws, where air gets under something and lift it (every action has an equal and opposite reaction) so strap that thing up good or when you get going Mach 1 you will start to fly!
 

Ford Prefect

Expedition Leader
I bought a salvaged cessna 310 to mount above the truck roof. Is it a problem if the plane extends beyond the windshield? I will have to cut out the floor to bring the height down to 41".

I thought he was going to have it mounted in the middle of the roof, with nothing overhanging. If it hung over the edge I could understand that, but the only reason a matress or a sheet of plywood would try to peel off the roof is because air can get under them.


So that was my concern. If he has cut it back behind the windshield there is, obviously, much less concern. I was just trying to answer his 'what if' question.

The way I read it, it is going to look a lot like Jack's, only with a plane rather than a 1948 Studebaker.
Cheers
 

dcp1313

New member
ATTEN: Hani....hdemetrious & OTHERS! L@@K!!!

Hey guys/gals; I am new to the site, so PLEASE help me out here! I am not trying to hi-jack this tread; just saw that this truck/build is EXACTLY what im looking to buy. So i figured that yall might know where another one of these trucks may be hidding! I am looking to buy a 90's model Ford F-700 4X4 with the cummins 12v motor. It can be just a cab/chassis. The body/bed is not important; as i am going to install a wrecker bed on it. Any condition is considered. I live in upstate SC, BUT WILL travel for the right truck. The BEST way to contact me is by phone. You can reach me at (864) 347-4709. Thanks, Thomas!

P.S. Hani, This is a VERY good build! I have been watching it for a while..cant wait for some updates and more pics!!!!
 

Lynn

Expedition Leader
FLYBRIDGE!

Remote your truck controls to the aircraft! Can you image the view you would have, driving from up there?

Seriously, though, love the build.
 

hdemetrious

Adventurer
I am now in the process of putting a new floor on the plane. I am still deciding what to skin the interior in, aluminum or wood? Aluminum would be easier for dealing with the curves but would I be losing insulation value by using it?

I have decided to create two beams that will originate from the frame and will be above the truck roof to mount the plane on. It seems that is the strongest way to mount it.The plane is 9' so that would be a lot to cantilever of the camper box. Also I don't think it would be aesthetically pleasing to do it in that manner.

Lynn, thanks for the support. I see your from Texas. I was just in Austin checking it out as a potential place to move to. It has a great vibe but it was missing something like mountains, beach, or some geographic diversity to give it some color. Its still on the table but I am also considering Boulder, Colorado. Anyway, how do you like living in Texas?
 

Lynn

Expedition Leader
Lynn, thanks for the support. I see your from Texas. I was just in Austin checking it out as a potential place to move to. It has a great vibe but it was missing something like mountains, beach, or some geographic diversity to give it some color. Its still on the table but I am also considering Boulder, Colorado. Anyway, how do you like living in Texas?

Since you asked, and it's your thread, I won't consider my reply a hijack. :)

As you may know, Cedar Park is a suburb of Austin. We like it OK, but we're not really Austinites. Not into the live music scene, or college towns, etc. We came here due to a job opportunity, and Cedar Park is a pretty quiet, conservative area. Good place to raise kids.

And it's way too hot here for my liking. I'm from Colorado and my wife is from Louisiana. I like to tell people that moving to Austin was a compromise: too hot for me and just right for her... You know, one of THOSE compromises :)

Actually, it's not the heat so much as the humidity. I'll never get used to it. But it is much better than Houston, or Louisiana, or a hundred other places.

WRT Boulder, it's a great location, but not my kind of town, either. Too 'granola.' Matter of fact, when I was researching colleges years ago, one college guide listed the college in Boulder as the 'University of California, Boulder.' I'm not sure that was a mistake... (with apologies to any Californians reading this)

I grew up in SW Colorado (Cortez, 50 mi. W of Durango), and loved the area, but there's just no work there unless you want to make Indian jewelry or grow pinto beans.

My wife and I met while were were each living in Colorado Springs, which is an area we both love, and would love to move back to. I lived there for about 10 years, and I think she lived there about 8 years total.

IMHO any of the little (or not-so-little) mountain towns in Colorado would be great places to live, if you can handle the snow, and make a living in the tourist industry.
 
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Lynn, thanks for the support. I see your from Texas. I was just in Austin checking it out as a potential place to move to. It has a great vibe but it was missing something like mountains, beach, or some geographic diversity to give it some color. Its still on the table but I am also considering Boulder, Colorado. Anyway, how do you like living in Texas?

I lived in Lago Vista, outside of ATX, for about 5 years. I absolutely love that area. always something to do, and the TX hill country is absolutely gorgeous all year. If you want a change in scenery, a days drive will put you anywhere from the gulf to snow capped mountains in NM.
 

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