Btw , those k9 magnets have scared more people away from messing with my van than the dogs have... true story, I was on an adventure... with the van and went for a several hour bike ride .. and my wife left the sliding door wide open all day.. I mean all of our stuff was wide open to the world... when I came back there was a guy near the truck and I told him I must have left the door open... he told me he saw it all day but was terrified to go near because of the k-9 warning.... ha.. the dogs were with us... ha...