Gas storage inside vehicle a'la VDEG

MOguy

Explorer
I have used them for almost 20 years, trust me they will leak.
Lol @ track record.

I would avoid it at all cost, gas will ruin your interior and vacation if it spills.

If you are using the real scepter military cans the will not leak unless they have been damaged or not properly maintained. You can buy new seals for them, they are not that expensive.
 

MOguy

Explorer
Thank you all for the thoughts and interesting discussion. There has been much mention of fuel storage inside the passenger compartment being illegal. Has anyone actually found wording in any federal or state regulation to that effect? Please do share....

You have to check with you stake. My state has law about fixed tanks but not about temporary storage. The fed only has issue if is for commercial use, as far as DOT and HAZMAT transport anyway.
 

Lucky j

Explorer
About tranportimg any fuel inside on a passenger compartment, some vehicule just do not have enclosed cargo area. So in this case, your only option is inside with the passengers. And the people how aplie the law understand this.

Now as for carying fuel in the oitside of vehicule, some province or state do not accept roof cargo transportation. I have read it for my self about the province of quebec. But people do it anyway. About carying them in the back in a cargo rack system behind the rear axel, how long will it remain there? Or how long before your gas tank as space in it so you can dump the stored liquid in that tank. 100 miles /can, so just do not wait that your tank is empty to fî' it up, and you will quickly tranporting air in the back of your truck and still have space inside the passenger compartiment.

The real weight in a vehicule is from water transport.

My tought only.
 

Sabre

Overlanding Nurse
Having long years of experience in fire and rescue, I have had concerns about this for years. I've carried fuel on the roof (terrible for center of gravity, but likely won't rupture in a crash). I've carried it on the rear door (better for COG, WILL rupture in crash). Finally, on my last trip, I weighed alternatives, looked at the other loads I needed to carry, and decided to try interior storage. One can behind each front seat, the safest place in the vehicle, and the best place for center of gravity. Will not rupture in a collision unless the vehicle is completely destroyed with major intrusion. This arrangement was perfectly satisfactory for our trip, and I'll go this way again WITH the containers being properly secured.

You DO need the right container. My experience is with these, and I stand by them. No leakage or vapor release with any altitude changes I've ever experienced (sea level to 10,000 ft). The only time I detected fumes was when on an unshaded roof rack in full sun with ambient temp 113 degrees; such conditions will never be approached inside the vehicle. I will tentatively endorse this arrangement, with the usual (again, experience-based) cautions about unsecured loads inside a passenger vehicle.

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jeep-N-montero

Expedition Leader
Without reading the entire thread, aren't there a few options from down under(Australia) for larger fuel tanks under the 100 series?
 

Yuman Desert Rat

Expedition Leader
Without reading the entire thread, aren't there a few options from down under(Australia) for larger fuel tanks under the 100 series?

Yes, the long ranger tanks in AU are very nice and the front runner offering is also a great alternative to lugging jerry cans around. I have the 45 gallon front Runner aux tank. I LOVE it! Especially on long road trips! It's nice going 8 to 900 miles without stopping for gas! If you come across one for sale, I'd snag it!
 

Yuman Desert Rat

Expedition Leader
Wtih regards to transporting fuel inside of your vehicle; Rotopax containers are great for small amounts of extra fuel. I've never had a spill of whif of fumes with them and they were stored right behind my seat. (back when I had my Jeep) With a 72 gallon capacity in the hundy I only carry a 2 gallon rotopax for the generator, to help out others in need or as a last ditch emergency due to poor planning on my behalf.
 

jeep-N-montero

Expedition Leader
Yes, the long ranger tanks in AU are very nice and the front runner offering is also a great alternative to lugging jerry cans around. I have the 45 gallon front Runner aux tank. I LOVE it! Especially on long road trips! It's nice going 8 to 900 miles without stopping for gas! If you come across one for sale, I'd snag it!

I was suggesting that to the OP, we do okay in the Monty with the stock 24 gal tank, but those 100 series love to guzzle their gas and need extra capacity.
 

cruiserpilot

Adventurer
I went back to the OP, and realized this is originally for a Land Cruiser.
http://www.4wdsystems.com.au/index.php?id=25
This company makes premier auxillary tanks. They come with everything needed to install. They will airfreight. With the strong US dollar today, vs Aus dollar. Look
carefully at this.
I use Scepter military cans, I will carry 3 on rear rack, and 1 or 2 inside. The ones inside I will only fill when I foresee the need, Time and considerations have stalled
my ordering the rear tank for my 60. I would be far happier with a full 50 gal tank, than a bunch of jerry cans; happier yet with a 50 gal tank and a bunch of jerry cans.
 

Beowulf

Expedition Leader
cruiserpilot,

That is exactly what I did with the Aux tank. The OEM 19 gallon tank on the LJ has been replaced with the 32 gallon tank from Genright. Even with that I took the five cans. I'd rather have an additional 15 between the frame rails, but even then, I'd just find longer routes that did not include fuel stops, so I'd still indeed up carrying cans.

Just like you I only do it when I know the fuel buffer is needed. 99% of the time, the 32 gallon tank is more than enough.
 

jeep-N-montero

Expedition Leader
I went back to the OP, and realized this is originally for a Land Cruiser.
http://www.4wdsystems.com.au/index.php?id=25
This company makes premier auxillary tanks. They come with everything needed to install. They will airfreight. With the strong US dollar today, vs Aus dollar. Look
carefully at this.
I use Scepter military cans, I will carry 3 on rear rack, and 1 or 2 inside. The ones inside I will only fill when I foresee the need, Time and considerations have stalled
my ordering the rear tank for my 60. I would be far happier with a full 50 gal tank, than a bunch of jerry cans; happier yet with a 50 gal tank and a bunch of jerry cans.

I see they have a 40 gal version for the Monty, I may have to look at one.
 

whitenoise

Adventurer
cruiserpilot - thanks for that link. I am not sure if I really need that much capacity. Not to mention, I'd now have to find a way of relocating the spare, and that's not really easy to do without adding a bunch of weight in all the wrong places. I'm not going to Africa or Australia yet with this vehicle. :sombrero:
 
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Deleted member 9101

Guest
I'd say avoid if you can. I used MFC's in the back of Humvee's (yes it's slang), have you ever smelled the inside of one? They ALL smell like diesel. That's because the cans will leak eventually. They will. Rotopax 'breathe' also. Try to avoid fuel in passenger area on a carpeted vehicle!

x2. I have had the exact same experience, for almost two decades.
 
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I carry 1-3 of the military scepter gas cans and 1 water. I've never had the faintest smell of gas inside my Jeep Wj.

sent from inside my Wj
 

luckyjoe

Adventurer
You DO need the right container...

NATO_JERRY_CANS_INSTOCK.jpg

Yes, in my ~20 years experience with this style jerrycan, used for gasoline, diesel and waste oil transport, in horizontal and vertical orientation, I have never experienced leaks or vapors.
 

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