Google Phone rumors

haven

Expedition Leader
Google has developed an operating system for mobile phones called Android. Like other "smart phones" (e.g., Apple iPhone, Palm Pre, certain Blackberry and Nokia models) a phone running Android is really a mobile internet device that can run applications from third parties. It's a little Wi-Fi enabled computer that happens also to be a phone.

The first version of Android was released in 2007. The OS is functional, and available to manufacturers for free. Phones running Android have recently appeared for sale on the Sprint network (HTC Hero, Samsung Moment), T-Mobile (HTC G1, Motorola Cliq) and Verizon (Motorola Droid, HTC Eris). More phone manufacturers (LG, Kyocera, Sony/Ericsson, Acer and others) are exploring the use of Android. 2010 will see the introduction of several Android models from additional manufacturers.

The question since 2007 is, Will Google be content to give Android to phone manufacturers to sell, or will Google offer a phone under its own name? Maybe this question has been answered.

Google recently presented a large number of their staff with new phones running the Google Android 2.1 operating system. The company says putting the phones in the hands of its employees is only a large scale test of the new features of the 2.1 OS. But industry pundits disagree, saying this proves Google will shortly offer a phone under its own brand.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the test phone will be sold by Google to the public under the name "Nexus One" starting in early 2010.

The Google Phone "mobile lab" hardware includes:
Android 2.1 OS
built by HTC
Qualcomm 1 GHz Snapdragon CPU
.. (the iPhone uses a Samsung ARM processor, 667 MHz)
a little thinner than iPhone
trackball to direct the cursor on the screen
no physical keyboard
high resolution OLED display
WiFi and 3G connectivity
5 MP camera with onboard flash

Reports from Google staff indicate that the Google test phone has a radio that works using GSM protocols. In USA, that means the phones can work with T-Mobile or AT&T 3G data networks. Worldwide, GSM is the technology used by most carriers for 3G. So the new phone would work on networks outside USA, too.

The Google Phone is "unlocked," meaning it's not tied to a particular cell phone carrier. So there would be no problem using the phone on ATT in USA on Sunday, a European GSM carrier on Tuesday, and a Japanese carrier on Friday. Just change the SIM card as you travel.

Photos of the phone show external similarities to the HTC Dragon model. Verizon is expected to sell this phone as the HTC Passion sometime soon. The Passion uses Android 2.0. So another question emerges. Will Android 2.1 become available to all Android phones at some point?

Chip Haven
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
I just bought the Verizon Droid last weekend and dig it.
Android 2.01 was pushed to my phone Friday morning.

This is my first smart phone, but not the first phone I could check email and surf with.
I had an LG Dare before this Droid.

The Droid is more like a laptop than just a phone.
I can surf the 'Net, download apps from the app store, listen to Pandora Radio, and so much more.

It has both onscreen and a physical keyboard.
Also Google Maps is included which is just like a GPS and will talk to me to tell me how to get to a place I either type in or speak asking directions.

This could almost replace a laptop computer and GPS system.
The camera too is five megapixels and takes very sharp pictures and videos too.

With the Google Maps GPS thing, I can see my complex where I live and scroll the screen more to take me clear to my work and see the buildings there, pretty cool.

I will be curious if the one that Verizon will carry later (HTC Passion) will be as good or better than the Droid I have now.
 

SRN

Adventurer
The Android OS is a great platform. I bought an iPhone because at the time I was working for an Apple Reseller. My wife on the other hand got a T-Mobile G1, and I just love the interface. Even with my iPhone jailbroken, the Android OS is far superior.
 

rugbier

Adventurer
I got rid of my Iphone and love every minute of my Moto Droid, and not only that , using Google Voice on it it is AWESOME
 

CYi5

Explorer
Is there an extra data plan required for the droid (verizon)? I've had the same phone for 5 years now believe it or not, and have quite a few upgrades accumulated..
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
Yes, it is $30.
On my Dare phone I had before this it was called VCast for $15 which was the data plan.
Twice as much for the new Droid, but it can do a lot more requiring more bandwidth.

Also in early 2010 Adobe will have their Flash 10 plugin for the Android OS so you can view other videos besides only YouTube when surfing.

Tried to watch the Boeing 787 take off, but no go on the Droid, and I got the Adobe message.
I was able to get to a TV at work though to watch both the takeoff and landing three ours later.
 

crawldit

Adventurer
I always used to use smartphones with Windows Mobile. When T-Mobile came out with the first Android phone (G1) I jumped all over it. The OS is fantastic! I now have a MyTouch 3G through T-Mobile which is also an Android phone and I can't imagine ever using a different OS. It's like having a laptop/GPS combo in my pocket at all times. Not to mention all of the multimedia features. Google definitely scored big time with this new platform.
 

haven

Expedition Leader
The Google Phone rumors continue.

On December 10, Google filed an "intent to trademark" document for the name Nexus One. So the company has plans to market something under that name.

Two writers say the Google Phone is a big mistake

Michael Gartenberg says a Google Phone will kill Android
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/

PC Magazine columnist Sacha Segan says the Google Phone can't be a commercial product
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2357081,00.asp
 

Kilroy

Adventurer
I believe Verizon uses CDMA cell tower technology and as such is not compatible with GSM technology.

Reports from Google staff indicate that the Google test phone has a radio that works using GSM protocols. In USA, that means the phones can work with T-Mobile or AT&T 3G data networks. Worldwide, GSM is the technology used by most carriers for 3G. So the new phone would work on networks outside USA, too.

The Google Phone is "unlocked," meaning it's not tied to a particular cell phone carrier. So there would be no problem using the phone on ATT in USA on Sunday, a European GSM carrier on Tuesday, and a Japanese carrier on Friday. Just change the SIM card as you travel.

Photos of the phone show external similarities to the HTC Dragon model. Verizon is expected to sell this phone as the HTC Passion sometime soon. The Passion uses Android 2.0. So another question emerges. Will Android 2.1 become available to all Android phones at some point?

Chip Haven
 

Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
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Reports from Google staff indicate that the Google test phone has a radio that works using GSM protocols. In USA, that means the phones can work with T-Mobile or AT&T 3G data networks. Worldwide, GSM is the technology used by most carriers for 3G. So the new phone would work on networks outside USA, too.

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Chip Haven


WRONG

3G is UMTS. It is more related the CDMA then GSM. Completely different platform. GSM 2.5 is "Edge". 4g is going to be another platform yet.
 

haven

Expedition Leader
Thanks for the correction. If we substitute UMTS for GSM in the paragraph below, is it correct?

"Reports from Google staff indicate that the Google test phone has a radio that works using UMTS protocols. In USA, that means the phones can work with T-Mobile or AT&T 3G data networks. Worldwide, UMTS is the technology used by most carriers for 3G. So the new phone would work on networks outside USA, too. "
 

Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
That would be correct for the US I would asume for Europe as well. I Don't deal with roaming customers these days so have not really kept up since 3G landed but I am pretty sure they are heavy into UMTS and WCDMA.

The most used technology world wide is still GSM and GSM Edge (2.5g) all though on different frequency's. US uses mostly 800 (cellular) and 1900mhz (PCS) where a lot of the world runs 900 and 1800 hence the "Quad band" phones you see advertised.

Fact is it is horrifically expensive to roam overseas on a US based account. You are far better off getting a pay per use SIM once you get into a new country (excluding the North American continent as we have decent roaming agreements in Canada and Mexico and Purto Rico (AT&T has system there)) and installing it in your phone.
 
AT&T was happy to give me the unlock code for my HTC Tilt 2. Which I got because it has Adobe Flash Lite (for accessing many important websites) and a keyboard, stylus and finger control. And because it's GSM, but also can access 3G where it's available.

Charlie
 

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