Hella Xenon Lights (Driving // Flood // Pencil)

[luckyjoe]

If it's just for wheeling and you want stinkloads of light but not the most remarkable focus, get the cheap HIDs:
http://www.rallylights.com/hella-rallye-4000xi-xenon-driving-lamps-and-kits-special-pricing.html
http://www.rallylights.com/optilux-4-hid-driving-lamp-kits-and-single-lamps.html

What about bumper-level, country road deer lights? I was thinking about the 4" optilux tied to high beams. Am I way off the mark here?

 

[Hilldweller]

What about bumper-level, country road deer lights? I was thinking about the 4" optilux tied to high beams. Am I way off the mark here?

The Optilux have a warm-up period that makes them ill-suited for supplemental highbeams. They're also more of a floodlight, too much foreground light and too much light in the sky.
LEDs are good for supplemental highbeams ---- but only good ones, real ones, like JW Speaker TS3000, the Hella, a few Trucklites. But they're pricey.

So I still prefer good old Hella Rallye 4000 Eurobeams for driving lights. 100w of old fashioned reliable halogen. A near perfect spread of light, easy lamp to source if you break one, not expensive.

Somebody will make an LED that's affordable and works as well. Eventually.

 

[luckyjoe]

Thanks Bill. I have a very confined location, so the 4" size was appealing. Could not find any data on the 4000X (4" halogen), but I suspect it will not have the output I'm after.

 

[Hilldweller]

Thanks Bill. I have a very confined location, so the 4" size was appealing. Could not find any data on the 4000X (4" halogen), but I suspect it will not have the output I'm after.

No, not really.
4", huh?
Can you put a projector in there or do you need an entire assembly?

 

[Hilldweller]

This lamp: HL68136 --- http://www.rallylights.com/hella-90mm-classic-modular-headlamp-h9-halogen-dot-sae.html
Has a very nice pattern, fits in small holes (might have to make a bezel), uses an H9 65w bulb that makes a very real 2100 lm @ nearly 100% CRI.
Running at full power off your battery you'd see more than 2100 lm, btw.

 

[luckyjoe]

I have a horizontal surface, below a 5" opening - think: VW grill emblem!

 

[Hilldweller]

I have a horizontal surface, below a 5" opening - think: VW grill emblem!

The projectors in a mounting plate? Simple, effective, even elegant?
Cheap enough that you could even put two on each side...

 

[luckyjoe]

This lamp: HL68136 --- http://www.rallylights.com/hella-90mm-classic-modular-headlamp-h9-halogen-dot-sae.html

this one will fit without any brackets or modification: HL18621 --- http://www.rallylights.com/hella-rallye-4000x-halogen-driving-lamps-and-kits-special-pricing.html

Any idea how the two compare in output?

 

[Hilldweller]

this one will fit without any brackets or modification: HL18621 --- http://www.rallylights.com/hella-rallye-4000x-halogen-driving-lamps-and-kits-special-pricing.html

Any idea how the two compare in output?

Those projectors were among the best I ever tested....
I've never seen the 4000x in action. I'd start a thread here: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?87-Automotive-Motorcycles-Included
I know that Virgil on that forum knows that light.

 

[kojackJKU]

A converted HID setup will so do exactly what you said depending on what globes you use. My 500 does NOT saturate the foreground, have hot spots or anything of the sort. Mine work great and put out awesome light to drive with. Coming from nighttime driving experience of course, not sitting in a parking lot with a meter.

Just a little comparison, My friend who has a 20" straight and 30" curved LED bars on his F150 pulled next to me on a long straight last night, we were both curious to see how each other's lights performed. As expected, my converted HID lit up more of the road past 200 m. His were wide out to 200m, after that the light spread was so scattered and useless. My 500 hid converted kept a nice tight beam A LONG way out, and spread to the ditches across a 3 lane highway. For the cost, there is no better combo for someone looking for an awesome set of lights. My friend swapped from 4 KC 8" high powers, and thought his led bars were better....until last night when he saw my sub 120 dollar system mop up his 500 buck plus LED bars.

 

[LexusAllTerrain]

I am doing a review on a 42" Osram LED it has much more focus beam and longer distance, light seems very similar to ARB LED Lights!

Compared to a Hella 4000 Compact HID there is no contest, this one puts out a much bigger circle of light sure the Hella throws light further but not much more and it is much narrow!

 

[kojackJKU]

Intersted to see the results. I am going to buy and try a set of 225w 9" arb style lights and give them a go on the f150.....If I don't like them, I can just resell them and pretty well be out nothing. worth a shot. But my buddies light bars were not my cup of tea.

 

[LexusAllTerrain]

Intersted to see the results. I am going to buy and try a set of 225w 9" arb style lights and give them a go on the f150.....If I don't like them, I can just resell them and pretty well be out nothing. worth a shot. But my buddies light bars were not my cup of tea.

If this are the chinese ARB look alike, somebody in here bought them and was very dissapointed!

His pictures tell the story compared to the Hella 4000!

 

[kojackJKU]

Ahh, ok. then I'm going to stick with my converted 500s on my other rigs too. Price for performance, nothing comes close. I don't think the 500 ffs are as good for converting to HID. But the 500 Driving beam pattern is awesome.