Homemade Air Conditioner

Lynn

Expedition Leader
Pretty cool, but you'd have to be camping near an ice source. Can't imagine one load of ice would cool a tent overnight here in Texas. Tempted to try it, though... I've got an old cooler I could drill holes in.

My first thought was why bother with the styrofoam bucket, since the intention of the AC is to transfer heat from the surroundings into the ice. Then I realized without the styrofoam there would be lots of condensation. Maybe he explains that. I viewed the vid with the sound muted (stealth mode at work).

Would raise the humidity level, but probably not as much as a straight swamp cooler.
 
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Having that much extra ice to keep you cool for any extended period of time would be a problem. Dry ice might be a replacement idea but you would have the carbon dioxide problem. But if you set up two heat exchangers with a couple of automotive heat coils and some flexible hose and a circulating pump. Have one outside in a cooler with a oneway vent and the dry ice and the other in the space with a fan blowing through it and water with some antifreeze pumping through the lines. You could probably cool a little more efficiently and not have the added carbon dioxide problem in the confined space you are trying to cool. I have thought of trying this on my little camper I have built due to it is well insulated and seals up pretty well.
 
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Chili

Explorer
I somehow stumbled on to this idea a week or two ago. Except most of those used the cheap Styrofoam coolers. The ice availability was my concern, and doubt that it would do much for Texas summers (as Lynn pointed out). I like the ingenuity though!
 

Lynn

Expedition Leader
//snip// But if you set up two heat exchangers with a couple of automotive heat coils and some flexible hose and a circulating pump. Have one outside in a cooler with a oneway vent and the dry ice and the other in the space with a fan blowing through it and water with some antifreeze pumping through the lines. //snip//.

Unless I'm mistaken, antifreeze typically freezes at around -35 deg. F and dry ice boils at -109.3 deg. F. Your system may be susceptible to ice blockages.
 

SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
My brother did this the other day at his AC less firehouse in Tucson.

Good point with Ice...what about dry ice?

Edit: Nevermind....
 
Good point Lynn. I wonder if having the heat exchanger not in direct contact with the dry ice would help with the freezing problem. I've never actually messed with dry ice so not to familiar with its characteristics. I've read keeping it wrapped in newspaper or rags help it regulate cooling. Or might have to find a way to insert coil only when waterpump is running. Or maybe the freezing water is why nobody has come up with this idea before.
 

AuntieM

Observer
We have a good sized freezer in our camper. I would try this by freezing quart sized bottles of water. Once it has melted, just refreeze it. Maybe we wouldn't use this on long trips, but I think it would be great at the river or beach.
 
But if you have power to freeze ice you have power to run a A/C. I checked into it and it is just as effective on cooling as a fan and misting system.
 

MrSandman818

INaVANdownBYtheRIVER
I Made One

Theres guys on instructables.com who built a few versions of these things. I built one myself. Still tweaking things here and there on it. I tried to make mine more effecient.



What I bought or had laying around"
-12volt fan $8? wally world
-ice chest $free
-harbor freight solar powered 42gph fountian pump $17 on sale
-smallest heater core from o'rilies $30
-copper tubing from lowes $dont remember, wasnt cheap
-marine epoxy from lowes $dont remember

I need to fix one small leak and also remove the rest of the radiator fins as they restrict a lot of the airflow. I used an old card board box for the fan shroud and attached a bracket so that I can just clip on the 12v fan. I marine epoxy'd the copper tubing to the solar powered fountian pump and it holds up just fine.

My approch was to build something that was as effecient as possible. The 12v fan doesnt draw much power at all. The fountian pump is solar powered, so as long as theres sunlight then the water is pumping along without draining any batteries or requiring a power inverter. As of right now the unit works well. I need to modify a few things and seal up some gaps on the lid as it is a older ice chest. Once all that stuff is taken care of im going to opt to use block ice to make it last longer. Then on a nice and hot day I will do some testing to see how well it cools the back of my campershell and how long the ice lasts. I did a breif test one day with a small block of ice. The outside temp was 79 degrees. Output at the radiator was 56 degrees. Once I am able to increse the airflow I believe it will be a usefull thing to take when I camp with just the campershell for a short time.
 

Mwilliamshs

Explorer
I've had one of these since it wasn't cool (pun intended). I'm only 30 but made several trips about 10 years ago across Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee and into Missouri in a 1950 Dodge Meadowbrook which was ALL stock but rebuilt. 230" 6 cylinder, Fluid-Drive transmission, 6v electrics, etc.

I used an under-dash heater from a 1950 Ford truck (a period accessory, it didn't say Ford like others I've seen), its built-in fan (which was already 6v, same as the car), some coil type duct hose from its defrost outlet to the back seat area (passed under the front seat), an old 60s style metal cooler in the back floorboard, and a 12v water pump from harbor freight. The pump was run on 6v which slowed it down and actually made the cooler work better I think. It was heaven for those summer road trips. It all blended in perfectly, just looked like an era-correct heater (the car had its own under the hood) and an era-correct cooler. The hoses from heater to cooler were run together through a factory hole (removed a metal plug) in the rear floorboard, inside some old fire hose for protection, under the floorboards and connected to the heater core on the engine-side of the firewall. I wasn't concerned about the inefficiency of the blower because it only ran when the car was running, this was a travel vehicle, not a camper.

The cooling ability of the system lies in its ability to remove heat from air and transfer it to the liquid being pumped through the heater core, and use that heat to melt ice, cooling the liquid. This is important. Ice basically replaces the compressor and condenser of an AC system. The more ice it can melt, the better it's cooling. A block of ice would be good for lasting a long time but the slower it melts, the less cooling you'll have. I just had a big cooler in the trunk for drinks and stuff and bought 2 bags of ice at most gas stops (1 into the cooler inside, 1 into the trunk cooler for reserve). This thing could really go through the ice on hot days but it made the drive more than just bearable, it was very comfortable. I kept the metal cooler as full of ice as possible (If I forgot the air temp would rise, letting you know the ice was gone) and let the water drain from the cooler (added a stand-pipe to its stock drain), and out the hole in the floor, as we drove. I'd added a sump to the metal cooler (cut up a plastic milk jug with the pump's suction line inside) so it kept JUST ENOUGH water in the loop to keep all the hoses and the core full, thus the pump couldn't run dry but I wasn't wasting any cooling power on keeping excess water cold. There's always more water available as the ice melts. In retrospect I'd've been better off having 2 compartments inside a big cooler: 1 with just ice with a water drain, and 1 with the ice and water I was currently using. It would've lasted longer this way and still given maximum cooling for the ice volume on hand. The only problem I ever had with the system's original design was the condensate dripping and being blown from the heater core in the southern humidity. Drilled a hole and ran a lil copper tube back out the firewall. It looked just like the car had AC with all that condensate dripping from the passenger side firewall.

This system could freeze if I added a little salt to the ice so I know it was cooling as much as possible with water (as opposed to antifreeze) and the breeze coming off the core was VERY refreshing on long summer drives. I bet that junk is still in the attic of my dad's shop...
 
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