How about switching from forced air furnace to catalytic heater?

docdave

Aspiring overlander
I'm wondering if I can use my current thermostat with a fixed mounted catalytic heater in my older Hallmark. My furnace may have just bought the farm, and I'm thinking a catalytic may be ok for my 3 1/2 season camping. Anyone rigged one with a remote thermostat?
 
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mhiscox

Expedition Leader
No way to do it that I know of. They're either on or off.
Apparently true now, but in my Sprinter, I had an Olympian (now Camco) Wave 8 cat heater that had an integral thermostat, a sliding level that increased or decreased the gas flow while leaving it on all of the time. Inexplicably, though, I notice that the current heaters have an adjustable BTU (gas flow) valve but not a thermostat. No idea why; I liked my thermostat.

You can look at this thing:

http://ventedcatheater.com/6.html

which is a vented cat heater that has a thermostat. An order of magnitude more complicated, though.
 

downhill

Adventurer
No, your forced air thermostat won't work for a catalytic. I have used catalytics in small campers for years, but I would not do it again or recommend it. There are two reasons. First, they give off carbon monoxide. Granted the amount is very low, but I have never been able to find a believable standard for long term exposure to low concentrations of CO. I never used mine without keeping air moving through the camper. The second reason is that one of the byproducts of catalytic combustion is water. Using one in a closed space will result in some pretty bad condensation. I designed and built a heat exchanger for mine that vented the heater to the outside. That significantly reduced the moisture and the CO from the heater. These days I use forced air heaters where the combustion air is routed in and out without mixing with the cabin air. One of the best I have found for a camper or small trailer is the Atwood Everest 8012. It was designed to be carried to base camps on Everest so it is very conservative on power. At 12K BTU, it warms my 13 foot trailer very nicely all winter. I would strongly recommend you use a Hunter non programmable thermostat from Walmart to control it. It is completely compatable, inexpensive, 2 wire hook-up, and great temp regulation.

Edit: Mike and I posted at the same time. The Cat he linked to sounds like it has solved many of my objections.....worth a look.
 
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Mit Fuso

New member
I'm considering a coolant heater that keeps my engine warm but has a heater core installed in place of the gas heater. I have seen one that runs on diesel (mounted at a safe place outside the living unit), but it costs about $1,500. That might be cheap if rigging up some Rube Goldberg system took a lot more labor.

Anybody had any experience with these?
 

brianjwilson

Some sort of lost...
A few people at rv.net forums have the vented platcat heaters in truck campers and other RVs.
They are thermostatically controlled, and can be because they are electric ignition. There isn't hi/lo settings, it cycles like a furnace would. There is a very small fan to draw out the fumes and some condensation from the combustion process. The removal of air also draws in some fresh air.

Having a window or vent cracked is still important, but it always is in a small place. I exchanged emails with the owner and he was very helpful in answering my questions. If I would have kept my camper for longer I would have ordered one I believe.
 

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
I'm considering a coolant heater that keeps my engine warm but has a heater core installed in place of the gas heater. I have seen one that runs on diesel (mounted at a safe place outside the living unit), but it costs about $1,500. That might be cheap if rigging up some Rube Goldberg system took a lot more labor.

Anybody had any experience with these?
This sort of heater is highly-regarded, but there are some drawbacks in terms of more complicated installation and maintenance. However, if you have a diesel-powered vehicle, they are worth considering. Plus some people, once they get as far as diesel space and hot water heating, buy one of the few diesel cooktops available and thus can get by with only the single fuel. As I say, though, more complex in terms of installation and maintenance, plus pretty expensive compared to propane-fueled alternatives. Usually a solution for a pretty high-end camper.
 

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