impressions of DMC-G2 (EVIL, micro four thirds)

theksmith

Explorer
I'm cross-posting this from OffroadPassport.com as I thought some people here might also be in the market for a move-up or a scale-down to a micro four thirds system....



I picked up a used Panasonic DMC-G2 camera this week off craigslist. I have been wanting to step up from a point-n-shoot for a while now to get better quality images and have more manual control, but not ready for the cost or really the bulk of a full-size DSLR.

I looked really hard at the Canon G12 and Nikon P7000 before deciding on the G2. Those are definitely still pocketable cameras in pinch, whereas the G2 is not. However, they don't have as large of sensor, as many manual controls, or as many options in general as an interchangeable lens camera. In the end, I decided that my regular point-n-shoot (a panasonic DMC-TZ5) would continue to work anytime I need a pocket camera, and for this purchase it was really about stepping up to something with "more power".

So here's the new toy:

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it looks like a full-size DSLR from that pic, but it's really much smaller, here's a shot in someones hand to give you some perspective on size:

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So basicly it's an MILC/EVIL type, Micro Four Thirds system camera.

With a sensor size of 17.3 x 13.0mm, it's quite a bit larger than a point-n-shoot, but not still not quite as big as even an entry level DSLR (such as a bottom line Canon rebel). This bigger sensor should make for some cleaner images, but really help with low-light noise - especially since they've kept the mega-pixel count down to a reasonable 12 MP instead of trying to cram too many on a medium size sensor just for marketing.

The lens it comes with is a 14-42mm (28-84mm in 35mm equivalent) f3.5-5.6. I'm already dying to get a prime lens for it. There is a 20mm F1.7 (that's 40mm in full-size terms) that should really help it's low-light performance, and a new 14mm (28mm in full-size terms) should be out any time. The 20mm gets excellent reviews, even from people using it on competing micro 4/3rds cameras.

Along with the standard manual buttons and dials, there is a touchscreen. The nice thing is that they didn't try and replace any traditional controls with the touchscreen, but rather it's there in addition to the other controls. So far I really like it for tapping on a focus point, in fact I love that feature. Beyond that though I haven't used the touch controls much yet.

I also like that the screen is fully articulating. Someone told me I would appreciate that (when I was originally comparing the G12 to the P7000), but I wasn't sure... turns out it really does make a difference when trying to compose shots from various angles. Much easier than contorting your body constantly to ungodly poses.

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Othere features I appreciate are the auto bracketing (for playing with HDR), the high-quality screen and EVF, the overall ergonomics, a full "auto" mode for being lazy, nice interface in manual mode for setting shutter/aperture and seeing the effect on exposure, an accurate exposure meter, easy to handle size, decent included lens with good range, wide shutter range (1/4000 - 4 mins), high iso (100 - 6400), optical image stabilization, and fast autofocus.

I should mention the ISO 6400 is pretty useless, mainly there for marketing purposes. And in general the higher ISO stuff isn't as clean at the Olympus competition (PEN series). Overall it still takes a clean image that's a huge step up from my point-n-shoot, and many of the other usability features trump the Olympus or the Sony competitors.

Here are the full specs...

And here's a pretty good overall review (without getting too geeky like some photography sites do).

And if you check out the user reviews on B&H Photo or even Amazon, they are excellent.


next, some sample images...
 

theksmith

Explorer
very low light, ISO 400, a little noise under the desk but pretty nice for the conditions:
ISO400_LowLight.JPG


early morning light coming through the window only, i like that the blacks are crisp and low noise. i shot this at ISO 800 because noche kept moving around:
lowlight_g2_ISO800.JPG


here's a closeup crop from that same picture:
lowlight_g2_ISO800_crop.JPG


and for comparison, here is the same crop from my point-n-shoot (DMC-TZ5), but taken at ISO 400. notice how this has way more noise even at half the ISO:
lowlight_tz5_ISO400_crop.JPG




some shots from the past few days, still learning to use the camera obviously...

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a test of different aperture settings for DOF changes, something previously hard to do with a point-n-shoot...

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some other random shots i took this morning since we finally have a nice sunny morning...

this is cropped because i couldnt' get in tight enough with the zoom, and wanted to show the birds:
morning3birds.jpg


these next few were taken from the RAW's and minor adjustments made to how the RAW was processed, then one step of sharpening done in photoshop. i am finding that 90% of the time, i want to do one level of sharpening. i'd rather have a camera that doesn't get overzealous with it's built in sharpening though because it's easy to add a tad but you can't really un-sharpen something that's overprocessed.

morningground.jpg


morningshade.jpg


morninglimbs.jpg
 

theksmith

Explorer
the camera also has a "color" option that lets you apply some color processing to the images in camera. i don't anticipate using it, as i'd rather apply any styling in photoshop later. but here's a comparison of some of the styles anyway:

standard "pure" setting:
color_pure.JPG


"elegant":
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"retro":
color_retro.JPG


"silhouette":
color_silhouette.JPG


"expressive":
color_expressive.JPG



next up, i'll put links to the full size and RAWs for those that want to really look at the cameras performance...
 

theksmith

Explorer
for most of the shots on this page, you can see the full EXIF data if you look at them on my picasaweb gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/kristoff...21TestingDMCG2

here is a full size, str8 from camera JPG of the depth of field test with the tree limbs: http://theksmith.com/photos/G2/doftree.JPG

some of the RAWs from this morning:
http://theksmith.com/photos/G2/doftree.RW2
http://theksmith.com/photos/G2/closeground.RW2
http://theksmith.com/photos/G2/noche_morninglight.RW2
http://theksmith.com/photos/G2/sunrise.RW2
http://theksmith.com/photos/G2/typicaloutdoors.RW2



overall i'm excited about the new possibilities with this camera and it's a big move up for me. i still have an *** load to learn about all the settings and overall how to best utilize the features of the camera. this purchase won't make me a better photographer, but it will allow me to capture some things that were in my mind before but i couldn't coax out of a point-n-shoot.
 

BKCowGod

Automotive ADHD is fun!
Thanks for sharing... I've been watching them come down in price, thinking of selling my Rebel to fund one.
 

theksmith

Explorer
Thanks for sharing... I've been watching them come down in price, thinking of selling my Rebel to fund one.

MSRP is $699, B&H has them for $549 right now.

I saw a "used one time" one on ebay with box and all manuals/accessories for $469 a few days ago. I picked my "used one time" one up from craigslist locally for $425. Guy had box and all manuals and such, only missing lens hood, and really does look to be used very little - so far no problems.
 

BKCowGod

Automotive ADHD is fun!
The Olympus PEN is dropping fast too... Maybe for my birthday in May :)

Sounds like you got a great deal!
 

theksmith

Explorer
The Olympus PEN is dropping fast too... Maybe for my birthday in May :)

i like the all in one-ness of the PL1, but it feels a little cheap and lacks some control... then there's the P2 that is really nice but lacks the viewfinder and flash without adding on to it (and driving up cost). Either way, Olympus can't be beat for high ISO performance, and their micro-four-thirds are very compact and sleek looking. Good luck!
 

deserteagle56

Adventurer
teksmith, how would you rate the durability of the G2? I have been considering the G2 or perhaps the GH2 as a replacement for the Canon Powershot superzoom I have been using for the past couple years. I do most of my photography from the back of a dirt bike or quad, with the camera hanging around my neck and bouncing around all day long getting covered with dust. I want something that can take that kind of beating and not give me problems.

Also, with the Powershot I am able to turn off the sound of the shutter. The camera is completely silent when the shutter is released and I really like that feature in certain situations. Is it possible to turn off the shutter sound on the G2?
 

theksmith

Explorer
teksmith, how would you rate the durability of the G2? I have been considering the G2 or perhaps the GH2 as a replacement for the Canon Powershot superzoom I have been using for the past couple years. I do most of my photography from the back of a dirt bike or quad, with the camera hanging around my neck and bouncing around all day long getting covered with dust. I want something that can take that kind of beating and not give me problems.

Also, with the Powershot I am able to turn off the sound of the shutter. The camera is completely silent when the shutter is released and I really like that feature in certain situations. Is it possible to turn off the shutter sound on the G2?

not sure yet on durability, just got it... however my thoughts would be that no interchangeable lens system is going to be a simple and rugged as an "all-in-one" setup... have you looked at the canon G12 or Nikon P7000? they seem like they would be good all around choices for you.

i'm pretty sure you can turn off the focus confirm beep on the G2, but there is still a noticeable physical shutter sound.
 

theksmith

Explorer
How is the viewfinder? I am struggling with the idea of a digital viewfinder

i've never owned a TTL camera, so i couldn't really give a comparison - also, coming from a point-n-shoot world, i'm still composing everything using the screen (which is quite viewable even in bright sunlight).
 

deserteagle56

Adventurer
How is the viewfinder? I am struggling with the idea of a digital viewfinder

Coming from Nikon SLRs straight to the Canon Powershot series with the electronic viewfinder was a big change for me. Although the best as far as point-and-shoot viewfinders go (especially with the Canon SX10IS I am using now), the Canon electronic viewfinders still are very poor compared to what I was used to seeing through the Nikon prisms. I understand that the Panasonic electronic viewfinder are worlds better than the ones on my Canon. The electronic viewfinders do have some advantages - what you see in the finder is exactly what will appear in the picture. And when it is nearly dark, the electronic viewfinder will gain up enough light to make composition easier compared to what you would be able to see through a prism finder. But whether the Panasonic viewfinder is good enough to determine precise focus, if taking a closeup with a micro lens for instance, I don't know.

Personally, I almost never take a picture using the rear LCD to compose. 40+ years of peering through a viewfinder are hard to break - and I find it helps tremendously to stabilize the camera if it is pressed to my face. When that camera comes up to my face my body goes automatically into target shooting mode - breath control, even trying to control the heartbeat!
 

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