Internal 2014 LR4 information

KyleT

Explorer
Also worth noting is that it was only 2009 where the 4.4V8 LR3 had just 300hp and 315 ft lbs (at 4000rpm). The 3.0SC is still significantly better than that especially in the torque curve, and being coupled to the 8-speed transmission. I dont hear LR3 owners lusting for more power too often.
Lol we heard all kinds of complaints till the 5.0 came out... Especially customers who had cayenne turbos and rr supercharged trucks... The full size rr with 305 hp didn't feel near as slow though....
 

Some Dude

Adventurer
The cool thing is that if it has low range, it automatically has rear diff locker.
The crappy thing is that lacking the HD package on the current model is not a complete deal-breaker. It still has low range with a locking center and traction control is very good. For my use, I don't need the rear locker but I do need low range. Now if I ever want to buy a 14+ LR4 I'm going to have to find one with HD which was a total PITA when I bought my LR3.
 

LR Max

Local Oaf
The crappy thing is that lacking the HD package on the current model is not a complete deal-breaker. It still has low range with a locking center and traction control is very good. For my use, I don't need the rear locker but I do need low range. Now if I ever want to buy a 14+ LR4 I'm going to have to find one with HD which was a total PITA when I bought my LR3.

We will see. I have a feeling that dealerships will select plenty of trucks to order that come with low range. Can't say the same when the HD package was available.
 

454

Exploder
I am curious how many customers will pony up for the two-speed center diff?

My guess is not many.
 

proper4wd

Expedition Leader
I will estimate that in truth maybe 5% of LR4's will have the HD package (at least in my market).

Reason being, competition between dealerships is fierce and any specialized option that could mean "our" LR4 costs even $300 more than "their" LR4 means the customer is probably going to buy from "them". Aside from the HSE package and Cold Climate Package, the available options are superfluous to 98% of new LR4 buyers. Often we dont even add DAS digital/satellite radio ($750) to the trucks we order because we would rather have a $750 cheaper car to sell. And in the scheme of things DAS has a pretty broad appeal especially compared to the HD package.
 

Eniam17

Adventurer
Those stats are interesting. Amazing that people are even thinking about 500 or 1000 dollar difference on a 55k + new vehicle purchase.
 

JQ11

Observer
Great info - might have missed this but any speculation on when they will arrive at dealerships and what city/hwy mpg is expected?

Thanks
 

proper4wd

Expedition Leader
The first order call for them is open this week/next week, which means the first batch should be here early/mid January.

I'd speculate a 10% improvement in fuel economy ratings, what that will actually translate to will remain to be seen.
 

AndrewClarke

Adventurer
It still has 8 "cylinders" under the hood although only 6 of them have pistons :)

What do you mean by this? You have confused me.

The V6 is a step in the right direction, although removing low range as standard is a psychological step in the wrong direction. I have no real use for an LR4 since I have a 110 and a Volvo XC90. However, when the time comes to replace the XC90 I'll certainly look at an LR4, although I suppose I'd have to get rid of the 110 and pick up a smaller runabout at the same time. One of the big problems for me with the LR4 is justifying driving around a huge V8. Our Volvo does just fine with a 5 cylinder turbo.

When the Volvo gets replaced in 1-3 years, I'll see what these V6 LR4s are doing in the used market. Or, maybe by then they'll be selling a diesel (haha) or a new Defender diesel (hahaha). You never know.
 

proper4wd

Expedition Leader
The 3.0V6 uses the same block as the 5.0V8, including all 8 cylinders. Only the front 6 are utilized.
 

PhyrraM

Adventurer
The 3.0V6 uses the same block as the 5.0V8, including all 8 cylinders. Only the front 6 are utilized.

My mind wants to reject that. No modern manufacturer would accept the extra material costs, machining costs, extra friction, extra weight, etc.

If that is true, I wouldn't hold out any hope of increased mileage.
 

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