Intro and Our Mercedes Vario Home -Gen rack pg.5. Ideas on uprating rear suspension?

ianc

Adventurer Wannabe
There was one guy doing them in the UK on top of ex army DAFs www.overlandvehicles.co I think. he went to the wall about 9 months ago.
There are a couple of others doing unimog conversions.

I talked with the company who built my shell to see if they were interested in doing shells for others. They reckoned it took longer than they anticipated but they might entertain another.

See also the comments on http://www.xor.org.uk/silkroute/equipment/choosevan.htm

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docka

Adventurer
Good reading, thanks. Also interesting to hear about the guys who did your shell...
Have you got any more detail on the cabin to chassis fix design?
 

Anton2k3

Adventurer
So basically what Stephen Stewart says there is that a 7.5t mercedes vario 4x4 is the perfect overland camper? I'll drink to that, fingers crossed for today!
 

docka

Adventurer
Reading Stephen Stewart's website has me hungry for more info on overlanding, can anyone recommend any good publications/books etc?
 

ianc

Adventurer Wannabe
Good reading, thanks. Also interesting to hear about the guys who did your shell...
Have you got any more detail on the cabin to chassis fix design?

I've documented some of it on http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/78237-Pre-birth-of-a-camper-No-laughing!

In essence though, I have the box integrated into the cab (I tiny bit of flex available via Sikaflex bonding) and then the subframe of the box (180mm x 70mm I think) is connected to the Mercedes chassis via spring loaded bolts which should allow up to a 100mm gap to open up between the subframe and chassis in the event of chassis flex (The springs fitted by the builder are too short - I need to replace them before doing any twisty stuff). There are also side plates to stabilise. I have some drawings somewhere. I'll try to dig them out.

The shell guys were Cafco. They ended up doing a nice job but it took some work to get there and they often didn't listen and ended up having to redo stuff. I also ended up compromising a little. Would I recommend them? - Probably yes, but I'd explain what to look out for.
 

Anton2k3

Adventurer
Minor Upgrades

Hey Guys,

So i finally got around to finishing some things on my holiday at home. Apologies its all pretty minor stuff, but some may find it of interest.

So the first upgrade was the heating. When I built the camper, I used some second hand parts as at the time I couldn't afford new. I have since learned that buying any critical systems second had is FALSE ECONOMY! Everything second hand has broken, so its all been replaced now. Anyway, our Webasto hot air heating broke around a year ago, but due to having the secondary wet heating system, i've not been in a rush to replace it. However, due to the holiday we were planning a couple of weeks ago, i decided to fit a new one. I went for an eberspacher D4, which I must say, i'm very impressed with. It heats the van within minutes, and regulates itself when desired temp is set on thermostatic controller. It also does cold air blowing, which is nice to use when cooking etc to circulate the air.

The foot print was different to the Webasto, so I had to make up a new spacer bracket to fit it:

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Our reversing Camera gave up the ghost in Europe last September, so I replaced that. While I was up there, I fitted a 24v LED work lamp. I'm very pleased with this piece of kit, very bright and draws very little current.

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Back in September I started the installation of the generator, getting it all mounted on the back. The idea from the start was to have the generator run in the box, with remote start from inside the van...which it now does!

I started by fitting two high temperature fans to the box, and making a hood for them from stainless steel. I seem to have forgotten to take a pic of that. Anyhoo, in order for it to work, i installed a system where by the fans in the box would run off the generator when it was running, and when shut down, the fans auto change over to run off the inverter/battery bank for a cool down period. For this to work, I had to extend wiring. The pic below shows the new plugs on the bumper, one for the fans, one for the generator remote control, and one for the 240v input from generator to the van.

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I also installed an 8 pin plug on the generator (for the controls), so that the generator can be unplugged and removed from the box for use elsewhere.

The 3 new wires run along the chassis and into the van (one was already there for tank level gauge):

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The system to auto change over the fans was made from a 240v change over relay, and a bathroom fan timer, shown here installed in the garage. The box next to this is the RCD for the inverter.

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I also installed an RCD in the generator box, so all incoming 240v feeds are now protected

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The box inside the van to control the generator has 3 buttons, one for on/off, one for the starter, and one for the eco mode. Again made from stainless steel:

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So that's the generator install all finished. We used it every day on holiday, particularly useful for the wife when she want to use the hair dryer! Unfortunately the exhaust manifold cracked on it, so i'll have to fix that next time i'm home.

Another job long overdue, was lights in the garage. I've had these kicking around the about 2 years, but just haven't got around to fitting them. Now I have them, I don't know how we lived without them!

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And showing the switch location:

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The last mod I have picture of, is the installation of the waffle boards. These are particularly useful when stopping somewhere a bit soggy to park the van on, and also apparently up to the task of bridging, although not sure i'd trust them for that. So, I had some complex design for a bracket made from stainless steel to hang these on the outside of the van. However, the wife wasn't to keen on that, so I was going to put them on the roof. It would have been a bit impractical, and taken up valuable solar panel real estate. So, my dad came up with the great idea of mounting them in a swingout at the back of the garage. That way, they are hidden, but don't get ****e in the garage, and act as a garage door. My dad is excellent at carpentry, and knocked this up in a couple of hours. Of course, I made the stainless steel corner pieces!
 
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Anton2k3

Adventurer
Continued

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Other mods which I don't have any pictures of included a heat shield for the cooker which I folded from stainless steel, completion of the 'spare bed', and installation of roller bearing slides and larger push button locks on the two double height drawers in the kitchen.

So that's it for another 6 months, and now begins the planning for the next round of modifications! I need to replace the shower tray as its cracking, so I think i'm going to get a stainless steel one made up. Maybe installation of some solar panels, and finishing off of the cab. We'll see, plenty of time to think about it!
 

tallboy

New member
bed length

Hi,
I just started to plan my Vario conversion and I am impressed what you guys have done.
I am a tall guy and don't have the base truck yet. The measurements online vary.
What bed length can be achieved over the full width about 3 1/2' under the ceiling of a raised factory top?
 

Anton2k3

Adventurer
Its been a while since this thread has been updated, so i'll just give a run down of the mods over the last year:

I decided to remove the roof lights which were in place when I got the van, but blanked over internally with our interior. They never looked completely water tight, and looked crap from above:
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To replace, I cut out a 3mm aluminium insert, and used SIKA 512 (UV stable) to glue it in to position. The second reason for installing these aluminium panels, was that I wanted to install a fantastic vent over the rear bed:
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You've probably seen the solar panels in that photo, they were another upgrade. 150w panels, bosch cells. I wired these in series, and used a Morningstar Tristar MPPT controller with remote monitoring screen. Held in place with aluminium angle again SIKA'd to the roof. They are also padlocked for security:
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The monitor can be seen on the end wall of the kitchen here:
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On a pretty nice day you can see I was getting over 19amps...i'll take that!

Another mod which was done a while ago but helps enormously is the removable stabilising jacks. Keeps the can steady in high wind and during other activities!
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The spare wheel carrier can also be seen there, don't think that has shown before. Its on a swing out which is attached to the bumper, and a 'control arm' to the rear door so that it swings away when the door is opened.

In the last post I mentioned I had finished the remote generator installation, here is a (bad) photo of it on the back:
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Final job was the upgrading of the cab. We re-lined the roof with faux suede, re-pained the back wall, added a cubby hole in the top shelf of the roof lining and installed a new stereo:
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Anton2k3

Adventurer
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So that's it pretty much up to date. I'm making some big changes soon though, and in order to do that have decided to remove the rear bumper, spare wheel carrier generator box combo to make way for my plans. Is there anyone who would be interested in buying it? Essentially, will come with everything to make your van remote start generator system (wiring, control units etc). I'll try and sell the whole lot as a package, but willing to split it up also if no interest.

So what am I going to do? I'm going to transfer the spare wheel to the front, with probably a winch mounted underneath it. On the rear, I'm going to install a Slim Jim aluminium tail lift. This will support a motorbike when its folded up against the doors (the bike will sit in a 'cradle'), and can be used as a 'veranda' at the rear od the van when the rear hatch is opened up. No idea how I will integrate a generator yet, that's the hardest part. I'll probably have to down size and modify a EU10i for electric start or something.

Anyhow, if anyone is interested in the parts, PM me.

On a side note...how do I change the title of a thread? I must have done it before but I can't for the life of me figure out how I did it.
 
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