Thanks. I failed to disclose that I will build custom shelves/cabinets in the rear for windsurfing gear. The long wheel base (not super/ no short wheel base) has 3000mm from front seat to back or 1960mm from rear seat to back. Goal is to get a 2/1 rear folding seat. 1 rear passenger on right side and 2 passenger on left side. I then can fold the rear 2 seat on the left and my boards will still fit. I need the rear one seat for my son. And when I don't use the van for windsurfing, I still would have a 6 van seat (front middle would be tight). Not going for high roof (roof top tent and too high for off road), but will try to acquire a full time 4x4. I made some plans for the cargo setup and will not have much space left. With 4 boards, 6 mast, 11 sails, 4 booms and foiling gear... pretty packed. Only other items needed is the conversion of rear bench to 2/1 folding seat, nudge bar and good roof rack system to hold the large roof top tent and 3 people on top. I appreciate all the info so far.