JK 4-door to 2-door long wheelbase conversion.....

Metcalf

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I'm picky, but not a hardcore loyalist to anything.....

The tacoma has too big a rear overhang in my opinion...yeah, bobbing the bed is an option....more work

I still think the 4-door JK converted thing is still WAY less work.....especially in the door insert version.
 

Metcalf

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To put it another way. I have pretty much ZERO interest in owning a 4-door JK.....yet I LUST after the long wheelbase 2-door J8.

I can't really explain it, maybe the 4-door just crosses the mommy-mobile line for me or something.

I'm picky.
 

Clutch

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To put it another way. I have pretty much ZERO interest in owning a 4-door JK.....yet I LUST after the long wheelbase 2-door J8.

I can't really explain it, maybe the 4-door just crosses the mommy-mobile line for me or something.

I'm picky.


Oh I agree, a 3D is totally cool looking.


I have been lusting over a Troop Carrier for a very long time...I just can't justify the cost that they are commanding....then having to update it with a modern drive train. It needs an EFI gasser, 5 speed, coil over 4 link suspension, air conditioning....power everything (except windows)...well you get the point

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Metcalf

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You could always build one from scratch with an aqualu body. Maybe just stick the body on a frame that was modern enough for you?
 

Clutch

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You could always build one from scratch with an aqualu body. Maybe just stick the body on a frame that was modern enough for you?

Yeah I need to take some measurements...

I was thinking perhaps on a Tacoma frame...can get nearly 400 hp/tq out of supercharged V6, long travel suspension already exists for that platform...

I can't remember who built this, basically has prerunner suspension, which is ok by me, pretty much exactly what I want.

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Metcalf

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That was built by something along the lines of Rod Millen? Millen Motorsports? Something like that....

VERY cool ride! Why can't they build things like that in the real auto market? I guess the auto market should be dictated by consumers instead of all the epa and crash test save us from ourselves bullpucky!
 

Clutch

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That was built by something along the lines of Rod Millen? Millen Motorsports? Something like that....

VERY cool ride! Why can't they build things like that in the real auto market? I guess the auto market should be dictated by consumers instead of all the epa and crash test save us from ourselves bullpucky!

Yeah that is who it was, thanks!...I was thinking McMillin of Baja fame. But nothing was coming up in my search.

It is too bad we can't get something like that from the factory, they have to appeal to the masses to make a profit.

I really wish Toyota would of rehashed the original old land cruiser style on a modern platform....but the gave us that horrible FJCruiser...

EDIT: found more information on the build...

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/toyota/112_0001_2000_retro_toyota_land_cruiser/viewall.html

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Metcalf

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I think is was on a late model cruiser chassis, though they ended up remaking a lot of the suspension and adding rear IFS and such. It was V8 powered also.
 

Metcalf

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I was doing a little thinking on this today.....

While I am tempted to just use the JK8 kit parts that come from the J8 to convert the vehicle forever, I have to wonder if that is the best choice in the long run? I think a 'final' conversion would be the best for me, but I just think its SOOOO much work overall....and cost. The door replacement method seems to be about the right balance in the long run. Here is a JK8 (ish) conversion I saw at EJS.

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The rear doors access storage boxes between the wheel tubs and the seats. I don't know, creative concept, but I think its just a little bit too busy for me in this form. I think that same feeling would carry over to an 'insert door' style conversion?

Now this style of conversion....

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The complete JK8 conversion with the factory 4-door sides removed just seems SO much cleaner and simpler in the end. I think I am so attracted to this style of conversion because what I really want is the long wheelbase J8 '3-door'.

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In this style conversion the B-pillar from the factory 4-door JK body is eliminated and replaced with the same style as the short wheelbase 2-door.

On another note, the top, I did have an idea about making a jig for an aluminum top by making said jig out of a honeycomb errector set looking arrangement of laser or waterjet cut plates. The aluminum sides and top would then be cut to shape according to the modeling. The sheets would then be 'bent' over the jig structure to form the complex shape of the JK top. I think this would be about the best long term solution for making a top.

Anyways, just a few thoughts.
 

Metcalf

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A few quick 'chops....

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I think this is basically what you would get with the J8 style body conversion and a top that was a 2-door front top section with a 4-door rear top section that was spliced together......

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I'm digging this one without windows. I think its very 'commercial' looking. No fluff, no extras, just a simple top. This would probably be what I would build out of aluminum currently. I wonder what the best system would be to make a double wall structure and beef up the edges a bit? Generally most aluminum tops seem to have a condensation problem. I wonder what the best way around that would be?
 

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