Lift kit and tires size for my rig!!

WhiteLi0n

Santiago_Overlander_RD
Hey guy's and Gal's,
I have a 15' JK and I want you guy's opinions on what size lift and tires I should get, I will be using this as a expedition rig traveling and camping around the country, but I want it to handle any terrain I may encounter on my trips. I was thinking a 3.5 lift and debating between 33" and 35" tires. Any input from the veterans here will be greatly appreciated thanks.
 

ExploringNH

Explorer
Here is my opinion:
http://exploringnh.com/home/jeep-jk/

I think a 2.5" lift and 33-35" tires are perfect for a JKU for overland travel. 33s if you plan to do more road time, 35s for more offroad. It really just depends on what your end goals are. I personally like the AEV lifts. I think staying as low as possible is a good approach (coming from a guy with an Excursion on a 6" lift and 37" tires, haha).

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Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
Are you going to regear? If not, what gears do you have?
Manual or auto?
How much of a load?

I have a 2014 JKU Sport with manual trans and 3.73 gears. No lift yet but I plan to add Snynergy 1" springs and declare victory.
It's got stock wheels with 33" Cooper Discoverer ST-Maxx 255/80-17 tires.

If you have an auto and 4.10s or manual and 3.73s, 33s are okay. Otherwise you're looking at gears.
And lifts are about function. If I were high-centering much, I'd lift more.
But reliability is important. And fuel economy (range per tank). You can get to some pretty fun and pretty remote places on 33s.

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WhiteLi0n

Santiago_Overlander_RD
Are you going to regear? If not, what gears do you have?
Manual or auto?
How much of a load?

I have a 2014 JKU Sport with manual trans and 3.73 gears. No lift yet but I plan to add Snynergy 1" springs and declare victory.
It's got stock wheels with 33" Cooper Discoverer ST-Maxx 255/80-17 tires.

If you have an auto and 4.10s or manual and 3.73s, 33s are okay. Otherwise you're looking at gears.
And lifts are about function. If I were high-centering much, I'd lift more.
But reliability is important. And fuel economy (range per tank). You can get to some pretty fun and pretty remote places on 33s.

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I have a JK Auto, Dana 30 Solid front axle, Dana 44 Heavy Duty rear axle, 3.21 F/R ratio re-gearing is an option if i have too, Load not sure yet but the basics to do the job upgraded bumpers, winch, racks, for now I have a regular tent but eventually i would like a roof rack tent.
 

ExploringNH

Explorer
I have a JK Auto, Dana 30 Solid front axle, Dana 44 Heavy Duty rear axle, 3.21 F/R ratio re-gearing is an option if i have too, Load not sure yet but the basics to do the job upgraded bumpers, winch, racks, for now I have a regular tent but eventually i would like a roof rack tent.

I would start with 33s with that ratio and see how you like them. You can always go bigger when they wear out if you decide you need to. The 33s are noticeable, but not that bad in my opinion. Get a Procal to reset some shift points and you will be even happier.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
I have a JK Auto, Dana 30 Solid front axle, Dana 44 Heavy Duty rear axle, 3.21 F/R ratio re-gearing is an option if i have too, Load not sure yet but the basics to do the job upgraded bumpers, winch, racks, for now I have a regular tent but eventually i would like a roof rack tent.
Then gear it to the tire size you really want/need. Think long and hard.
Terrain will matter, whether you plan to ever tow, how much weight.
4.10s will spin 33s fine unless you tow; then you'd want 4.56.
4.56 might be good for 35s 'til you add weight and/or trailer --- then you'd want 4.88 or even 5.13.
The Pentastar is a good motor, better than the 3.8, but it's no torque monster.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
I would start with 33s with that ratio and see how you like them. You can always go bigger when they wear out if you decide you need to. The 33s are noticeable, but not that bad in my opinion. Get a Procal to reset some shift points and you will be even happier.
I can barely spin 33s with 3.73 and a manual. I think it would be dreadful with 3.21s and an auto.


BTW, no mods necessary with the tires I run. They don't rub at all.
 

Yarjammer

Wellreadneck
Get the tire size that you want and makes you happy. You will find a way to make everything else work when you do. Spend some time doing a google image search for "JK 33 no lift", "JK 35 no lift", "JK 33 2.5 lift", and "JK 35 2.5 lift". I think you will start to get an idea of what appeals most to you. Every deviation from stock has consequence. Every person has a different threshold.; it is ultimately up to you to decide whether or not the benefits (utility, happiness, performance losses) outweigh the detractors (shorter maintenance interval, lower mpg, garage clearance, performance).

Here are my thoughts:

I have 35's with a 2.5" lift and cut fenders on my JKU and at times think they are a tad on the smallish side. In order to stay low and upsize your tires you will need to go with a flat fender like MCE, Bushwacker, or cut your stock ones. Personally, I would stay away from any steel or aluminum fenders due to the fact they are stronger than the more expensive panels behind them (pristine fenders and a deformed body). The guys are right about keeping the lift as small as possible. With flat fenders you can run 33's and 35's with no lift. I would recommend heavier springs for the rear if you go no lift though.

Honestly, gears can be dealt with later counter to what many say. I've been wheeling on 35's with an auto and 3.21 gears for three years while deciding what my final tire size and ratio should be. Is it optimal, no. Is it still plenty capable and driveable, heck yes. A Jeep is a Swiss army knife not a Swiss watch. There is some hunting in the mountains but it isn't pervasive. In town it is slower to get up to speed, but still moves fast enough that you are not holding up people behind you. I'm sure I'm playing with fire going this long without re-gearing, but three years is a far cry from claims that my tranny was going to give up the ghost in a few months.

One thing about the Jeeps versus some of the other popular makes here on ExPo is that you will may find yourself going off-roading more than you thought with a local Jeep group. This is part of why some of our JKs are outfitted and built counter to Expo methodology. Taller tires are the only way to raise the pumpkin, which depending on your terrain and off-road driving style is a factor to consider. If weekend wheeling from time to time sounds like it is up your alley, go with 35's.
 

ExploringNH

Explorer
I can barely spin 33s with 3.73 and a manual. I think it would be dreadful with 3.21s and an auto.


BTW, no mods necessary with the tires I run. They don't rub at all.

I haven't lived with or daily driven one, only driven for a day on road and trails but I didn't think it was bad. Lots of forum posts seem to indicate the same. It certainly won't be quick by any stretch of the imagination but I think it's livable.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
I haven't lived with or daily driven one, only driven for a day on road and trails but I didn't think it was bad. Lots of forum posts seem to indicate the same. It certainly won't be quick by any stretch of the imagination but I think it's livable.
Really really depends on the terrain, weight, what ya got behind ya.

With 33s and 3.73s and a manual, I need to plan ahead, row gears, and get a running head start when I have my teardrop behind me on a hilly interstate. Even then I'm not hitting 65 and big-trucks are making overtures to pass me.
Unladen and around town, it's like a racecar compared to some rigs I've driven.

You have to remember that I'm coming to the Jeep from a Power Wagon, 410 foot pounds of torque, 4.56 gears, and 34" tires. That moved pretty well.
 

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