Living in a Shipping Container...

jeepdreamer

Expedition Leader
Good variety thinking...

Thats one of the things I like about Expo...we have managed to gather folks from all over, all walks of life, and most are articulate and intelligent in thought and reply. Keeps the mud slinging and hurt feelings issues at bay too!
RR1- I get all your points and even agree with many on a general populace level. ISBU homes are not really for everyone. They are however just one more option. How expensive it is to build really boils down to many of the things you mentioned. "trends" aside, not everyone has the same checklist for what they consider a home provides. Choices in acceptable comfort, size and style can dictate some drastic cost increase or decreases in any type home build. Also the desire to resell the house will limit how far one can go into the world of unconventional without finding yourself unable to sell, at a huge loss, or spending large sums to make it more widely appealing.
I'm a special case. Yes, feel free to laugh now...heehee. At 39 (gasp! where did the years go!?!) I've already owned 3 traditional style homes and a dueplex. None of those were purchased with the intent of staying, simply investments or where I was in life and needed a place to live.
As I lean forward and recognize the years slowly slipping past (or not so slowly!?!) I see a need and desire to start planning for my home. That actual place I can willingly live and reside at for the rest of my years. My preference is to build it myself. I have the skills. I have the tools. The biggest components I lack are the land and the spare cash. Both will come eventually but for me I see a need to look at a less costly, no long term debt, build as I can/go style of home. I know the area I wish to live. I prefer less neighbors over packed suburbia or tract homes. So in my particular instance a home made by me out of Connexs makes good sense.
And BTW, I bought two used, 40 foot high cube ISBUs a couple months ago for about 4500 bucks. The cost is not as much if you find used, un"restored" ones. Also, if you can stick to 20 footers the cost of transporting will be much less...ask me how I learned THAT! Ugh.
 

RR1

Explorer
jeepdreamer-

I agree with you everyone has different needs and desires, so the type of building materials will vary wildly. If we were all the same the World would be a boring place.:ylsmoke:

We have looked at anything from straw bail, rastra block, adobe, rammed earth, prefab fiberglass, etc.....

To finally settling on just restoring an existing structure.

I would like to build a cabin out of stone one day, none of that facade overlaid on sticks, a honest to goodness solid stone walled cabin. That with a hidden 3-4000 sq ft shop, so I have a place for my toys.

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Mamontof

Explorer
jeepdreamer-

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We have looked at anything from straw bail, rastra block, adobe, rammed earth, prefab fiberglass, etc.....


I would like to build a cabin out of stone one day, none of that facade overlaid on sticks, a honest to goodness solid stone walled cabin. That with a hidden 3-4000 sq ft shop, so I have a place for my toys.

Honestly i love taste of your future house .

Only , hay about purchase one of that from military (in NY Grumman selling

them for nothing ) httpcassone.com/index.cfm?page=ourproducts?_vsrefdom=ppc1,
so build a foundation with a full basement and put on top 2 unit .

That way you have a house 40x40 , and afther have a weekend fun make a stone facade

Office cost you $ 6.000 X 2 = $12.000 + basement add $ 10.000 + ruff all depend (if you do not like flat ) ,a stone facade ...

Compeer http://www.buyerzone.com/industrial/storage-containers/qz_questions_885z-1.jhtml?_requestid=13968
 

RR1

Explorer
Honestly i love taste of your future house .

Only , hay about purchase one of that from military (in NY Grumman selling

them for nothing ) httpcassone.com/index.cfm?page=ourproducts?_vsrefdom=ppc1,
so build a foundation with a full basement and put on top 2 unit .

That way you have a house 40x40 , and afther have a weekend fun make a stone facade

Office cost you $ 6.000 X 2 = $12.000 + basement add $ 10.000 + ruff all depend (if you do not like flat ) ,a stone facade ...

Compeer http://www.buyerzone.com/industrial/storage-containers/qz_questions_885z-1.jhtml?_requestid=13968

Your first link isn't working for me.

I used to put on stone facades for a living in my younger years. Honestly I don't like the look/feel of it. Very fake to me, maybe because it is...

The future plan is to have a very modest living quarters, that has very little impact on the land, then have a nice shop that is cut into a hill side, or have it underground so you can't tell it is there.

But for right now, it looks to be an old warehouse with living quarters in the rear of it. Because we need to be in the city for our businesses. Plus I am more about travel right now anyway.
 

jeepdreamer

Expedition Leader
Laughing at myself again...

jeepdreamer-

I agree with you everyone has different needs and desires, so the type of building materials will vary wildly. If we were all the same the World would be a boring place.:ylsmoke:

Yuppers..agree completely!

We have looked at anything from straw bail, rastra block, adobe, rammed earth, prefab fiberglass, etc.....

IMHO, all of these perhaps have their place...and appeal to different people for different reasons. SB, Adobe, and RE all have the least out of pocket cost and allow one, depending on build location, to perhaps take advantage of the land you own to literally build your house. RB I'm not real familuar with (I'll Google it later I'm sure) but the prefab FG stuff is expensive too...dollars fo doughnuts. Not degrading them just saying they are not for me.

To finally settling on just restoring an existing structure.

Merit to this approach as well. For those not able to wait out moving in this has appeal. Given this current economy there are LOTS of deals out there. I've "flipped" houses for a living for a little while and understand the percieved value. Its there, just not accessable in todays market if your selling. Plus I'm not really in it for the profit...not that I have money. Just that I don't want to move anymore. I want to build My house, where I want to, and How I want it...

I would like to build a cabin out of stone one day, none of that facade overlaid on sticks, a honest to goodness solid stone walled cabin. That with a hidden 3-4000 sq ft shop, so I have a place for my toys.

That is an AWESOME little cottage! And I can certainly understand your appeal with the stone. Doesn't get much more permanant than a chunk of rock, right? I just don't think I would be able to do one myself. And if you don't have free quarry access the raw materials may get pricey!?! Then you have to dress the stones...very labor intensive but not requiring much more than a set of chisels and hammers. Thiugh the thought of trying that when I'm near 50...uh, may be easier to just chisel out a toumbstone and call it good! :sombrero:
What makes me laugh is your last sentence above. That is me dead to rights! Being a jeep tinkerer and general mechanically minded thinker I could never have a big enough workshop. I have struggled with this issue constantly! Being a single guy with no kids I can likely live in a cabin the size of your stone picture one. Would I? prob. not...I am still working on the minimal that will satisfy my likes without feeling cramped. But the garage...Oh My! All bets are off there but I find it way harder to design that one. Given the likelyhood of having a handful of long term projects on going at any given time...the garage is my "real home". But every which way I look it is expensive....I'm still working very hard at finding a happy medium for it but its tuff. The concrete slab is the big expense. Plus I would require a section with a 16' celing to accomodate a lift. Is all this "NEEDED"? wel...no. Its not essential to life. But it is a facilitator of what I enjoy doing. I will likely end up settling for much smaller tinkering quarters but anything is better than nothing.

Mamontof...I got a little lost on the translation. Would you mind explaining that again about the Govt. thing? And I think you quoted RR1 instead of me again...heehee. No biggie! This is an interesting topic that has gone on as a longer thread than I would have imagined! :wings:
 

Mamontof

Explorer
Your first link isn't working for me.

I used to put on stone facades for a living in my younger years. Honestly I don't like the look/feel of it. Very fake to me, maybe because it is...

The future plan is to have a very modest living quarters, that has very little impact on the land, then have a nice shop that is cut into a hill side, or have it underground so you can't tell it is there.

But for right now, it looks to be an old warehouse with living quarters in the rear of it. Because we need to be in the city for our businesses. Plus I am more about travel right now anyway.

Total price $ 76-80 .000
Six mounts of work of one good Polish emigrant why badly wont have house in States

Fake..well that all about a taste :wings:

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jeepdreamer

Expedition Leader
Sweet!

Total price $ 76-80 .000
Six mounts of work of one good Polish emigrant why badly wont have house in States

Fake..well that all about a taste :wings:

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Nice stuff there "M"
My Moms side of the family are Polska and I gotta say there is a people that have been historically underestimated time and time again! neat house!
 

Mamontof

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Nice stuff there "M"
My Moms side of the family are Polska and I gotta say there is a people that have been historically underestimated time and time again! neat house!

Well house build in Low budget from what left overs / sale or free take ; as old bricks and stone

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Not even close to hundred year old Classical but but okay
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RR1

Explorer
Total price $ 76-80 .000
Six mounts of work of one good Polish emigrant why badly wont have house in States

Fake..well that all about a taste :wings:

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Nice! I like that. Now it just needs to be in the middle of the mountians...a wee bit close to a State road for me.:ylsmoke:

I wouldn't mind a cottage in the Swedish country side either.


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jeepdreamer

Expedition Leader
Small world!

Pennsylvania near Scranton

No kidding...!
I'd have to ask but if I'm not mistaken I have family from around there somewhere I think.
IIRC Mom was from those parts but to be honest I am the "bad son" (joking) that doesn't follow the family/reletives very closely. I'm sure my sisters would rattle off a list of kin from PA and Ohio...
 

Mamontof

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No kidding...!
I'd have to ask but if I'm not mistaken I have family from around there somewhere I think.
IIRC Mom was from those parts but to be honest I am the "bad son" (joking) that doesn't follow the family/reletives very closely. I'm sure my sisters would rattle off a list of kin from PA and Ohio...

If i am not mistaken in 4 state are NY PA NJ Connecticut over 1 mil people from Poland
In NYC we even have a Little Poland :elkgrin:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Poland,_Brooklyn

One day you maybe visit , many good home cooking small family restaurant and bakeries , good Polish Potato Spirit 180%-196% you can purchase as in old days under counter :wings:
 

Mamontof

Explorer
Nice! I like that. Now it just needs to be in the middle of the mountians...a wee bit close to a State road for me.:ylsmoke:

I wouldn't mind a cottage in the Swedish country side either.

I have near the lake in State forest Cabin ,( what left to my wife)
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You can build a new structure match cheaper as fix old build ( but that my opinion )
 

Metcalf

Expedition Leader
I would totally live in a shipping container house....the misses, not so much.

Orientate the long axis of the container towards the south, lots of windows on the south side, big patio or deck on the south.

Straw bale the north, west, and south sides. Install short joists on the 8' width to have a nice south facing roof line for future solar panel addition.

Loose fill the joists/attic area with LOTS of loose fill spray in cellulose (R60+).

Spray the underside of the container with stick on expanding foam after you plumb and wire it. The container would just be set on a simple footer style foundation.

With the way the containers are built you might even be able to pour a 2" slab inside with radiant hydronic heat? The passive solar should also allow the sun to heat the 'mass' floor if you did the math of the south facing eve. Add a small wood stove for backup heat?

I had a few designs sketched up at some time.
 

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