Buliwyf
Viking with a Hammer
Ha ha. It SHOULD. But the gasser will only be $5k to replace when it poofs. We're actually finding the new trucks have more reliable gas engines than diesels now.
Looking at a new Dodge, help me decide!!! (Power Wagon vs Cummins)
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Ha ha. It SHOULD. But the gasser will only be $5k to replace when it poofs. We're actually finding the new trucks have more reliable gas engines than diesels now.
crismateski
American Adventurist
my wagon is doing about 13 on the highway, 10 around town, and 8 crawling on the trail
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Well-known member
Go for the powerwagon. I have owned several Dodge diesels and currently have a duramax. I would only buy a diesel if I needed the pulling power, and it sounds like you don't.
leelikesbikes
Adventurer
hahaha
i think i see a lot more posers in bombed out street queen coal rolling diesels in my neck of the woods:smiley_drive:
i think i see a lot more posers in bombed out street queen coal rolling diesels in my neck of the woods:smiley_drive:
john101477
Photographer in the Wild
I voted cummins but should have recommended Bacon and a good Toyota 
jeep-N-montero
Expedition Leader
This made me chuckle! And all this talk of bacon is making me want some....
oldestof11
Observer
Get a 2013 Cummins if you have to have one. The Urea bumps up the mileage considerably and the 3500 is available with the 850ft lbs torque and Aisin trans combo
First off, I voted Cummins.
Here's the deal though. If you don't want to have to worry about things like auxiliary fuel filters and fuel additives (to keep the fuel system running long term) go with the Power Wagon. If you don't want to worry about deleting the emissions system and possibly compromising your warranty (in order to get the fuel mileage diesels are supposed to get) go with the Power Wagon. If you DO want to have unlimited power, go with the Cummins. They do just fine off road if you know how to drive and you can go 600+ miles on a tank of fuel instead of 400. That is big for us adventure types. There are things that need to be addressed with the new diesels, but after they are taken care of they should be trouble free with long oil change intervals just like the old ones.
Here's the deal though. If you don't want to have to worry about things like auxiliary fuel filters and fuel additives (to keep the fuel system running long term) go with the Power Wagon. If you don't want to worry about deleting the emissions system and possibly compromising your warranty (in order to get the fuel mileage diesels are supposed to get) go with the Power Wagon. If you DO want to have unlimited power, go with the Cummins. They do just fine off road if you know how to drive and you can go 600+ miles on a tank of fuel instead of 400. That is big for us adventure types. There are things that need to be addressed with the new diesels, but after they are taken care of they should be trouble free with long oil change intervals just like the old ones.
jps4jeep
Observer
Like mentioned plenty of times..
If you gonna do a lot of towing, go with a diesel
If you going to use the truck for lots of overland stuff and daily driving, the gaser will be fine.
One issue a friend of mine is having with his 06 cummins is, after he added 37" tires, winch, big road armor bumper and all the rollin'coal tuner crap, his transmission hates him and the front end hates him. Had to replace the trans around 100K miles and cost a pretty penny to get one of those high buck billet this and that transmissions. Wheel bearings were replaced twice and he also had to upgrade the front ball joints because they would go south after about 10K miles. Last we spoke (about a week ago) truck only has 115K on it.
If you gonna do a lot of towing, go with a diesel
If you going to use the truck for lots of overland stuff and daily driving, the gaser will be fine.
One issue a friend of mine is having with his 06 cummins is, after he added 37" tires, winch, big road armor bumper and all the rollin'coal tuner crap, his transmission hates him and the front end hates him. Had to replace the trans around 100K miles and cost a pretty penny to get one of those high buck billet this and that transmissions. Wheel bearings were replaced twice and he also had to upgrade the front ball joints because they would go south after about 10K miles. Last we spoke (about a week ago) truck only has 115K on it.
njtacoma
Explorer
I don't think Larry mentioned it in this thread but he has in other threads about cost of ownership. The Gas engines are so reliable now, and the fuel mileage in a diesel isn't that great anymore, it can be a coin toss.
A friend of mine that manages a fleet for a water district says he looks at the replacement costs on engines now as a factor. A new Hemi is a lot cheaper then a Cummins if things get really bad. They now reserve heavy towing duties to the diesels and everything else has gone back to Gas power.
The power wagon fuel mileage is pretty bad though, but I like lockers and warranties, so PW for me.
A friend of mine that manages a fleet for a water district says he looks at the replacement costs on engines now as a factor. A new Hemi is a lot cheaper then a Cummins if things get really bad. They now reserve heavy towing duties to the diesels and everything else has gone back to Gas power.
The power wagon fuel mileage is pretty bad though, but I like lockers and warranties, so PW for me.
Buliwyf
Viking with a Hammer
The stock Dodge bearings and joints are lame. Now that he has aftermarket parts on, he'll most likely have better luck.
I've driven a few of the newer engines with tuners, I'd rather keep the stock settings. Trans might be OK if noone Momo's it. Driving a big truck like a Mustang is a sure fire way to wear out everything on it in record time.
This is exactly what I'm seeing. The diesels only make sense when you have no other choice because of weight or 35" or bigger tires and alot of travel. The gassers need more throttle and some screaming, but they get the job done.
If you can stay 285-75 r17 or less the gasser is fine on the highway.
My F350 6.0 dually got 15-19 mpg tops. My 2008 5.4 SRW gets 14.5-16.5. I can eat the cost of a few MPG's.
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