Looking for my first camera.

88Xj

Banned
I'm looking to finally pick up a good camera and not the cheap 100 dollar Walmart special. From what I've read the Nikon d3100 is a go to camera, everything thing you need.

Bt I'm new to all this. No idea what I'm looking for, just want a great camera to take great pictures and something that'll last for years of useable. Can you help guide me?
 

dlh62c

Explorer
Why not, the camera seems to be getting favorable reviews at Amazon. But a cheap $100 Walmart camera can be handy. The best camera is the one you have with you.

Here's a site that might prove useful: Ken Rockwell

Youtube has reviews as well.
 
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Go somewhere where you can hold them and see how they feel in your hand. The ergonomics of the different cameras can make a big difference. Having a camera that's not comfortable to hold or controls that aren't easy to get too will really take away the enjoyment.

Just be warned - once you get hooked, it's a rabbit hole that's tough to get out of :)
 

JAvendan

Observer
keep that $100 walmart camera handy as there will be times when you don't want to lug the DSLR around with you.

joel
 

jeffryscott

2006 Rally Course Champion: Expedition Trophy
Depending on your budget and needs, take a look at the Pentax K-30. It is weather sealed and great image quality. You can get 18-55 and 55-200 weather sealed lenses to go with it, or an 18-135 weather sealed lens.
 

LR Max

Local Oaf
I've got a D3100 that I've been playing with here at work. Its a decent camera.

That said, I would highly recommend a used Canon G series camera. Something like a G10 or newer. Great cameras, easier to use, great to learn on. Also they are a bit more compact than a DSLR which is nice.
 

john101477

Photographer in the Wild
As has been said depending on your needs...
If you are looking to go DSLR, you have tons of options from Canon and Nikon. I personally shoot Nikon but have shot a lot of Canon as well. The 3100 is "ok" but depending on where you see your photos going you might want better lenses and that requires a camera with built in motor such as the D7000, D7100, or the Canon offerings of the 60D and up. I probably would not buy the 3100 at all but would think about the 5200 because of the AF system is so much better.

LR Max offers another option and it might be a viable one. If your not shooting wildlife heavily like I do and do not plan to make this a huge hobby like many of us have, the Canon G15 and Nikon p7700 are the top in their class although Fuji has a pretty sweet camera that many claim is the top contender. Either camera is amazing at around $500. The canon is faster at 10fps Vs 8fps but the Nikon has further reach at 200mm Vs 140mm. I took my wife to a local shop and had her play with both, doing my best not to interfere except to answer questions about both and the ergonomics, reach, and ease of use got the nod to the Nikon P7100, which she now shoots with regularly. She has shot with my D90 but does not care one way or the other about Lens selection or the "pain" of lugging around multiple lenses and changing them. They do both have great ability. As was mentioned above, go to a Camera store that does not say Best Buy or Walmart and try the cameras out. How a camera fits you will be a direct bearing on how often you think to grab it or continue with your day using an Cell Phone.
 

ywen

Explorer
forget the DSLRs.. they are overkill for folks starting out, or coming from cheapo P&S cameras...

These cameras are way better than P&S.. the first link below produces MUCH better image quality than the nikon d3100 and other cheap DSLRs. The other links are arranged in order desirability... they are all much much better than a typical P&S

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1389517282&pf_rd_i=507846
http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-Inter...8&qid=1370970665&sr=1-1&keywords=Olympus+EP-3
http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-E-PL3...&qid=1370970589&sr=1-1&keywords=Olympus+EP-l3
 

Awkragt

Adventurer
I got a Nikon 3100 a few weeks ago as a first DSLR. P&S just didn't have to low light performance and there was such a delay between the button press and the photo you could never catch the smile from the kids. Nikon 3100 with a 35mm f/1.8 prime takes amazing photos.

At only 349 from adorama.com for a refurbed 3100 it's worth a try to see if you can live with the size and weight of a DSLR.
 

john101477

Photographer in the Wild
M43 does have some definite traits that might draw the OP but to say that it takes better images is false. That's like saying the image quality of a CMOS-c sensor is as good as that of a full frame or medium format such as the hasselblad, which I recently watched a comparison on the Nikon D800 and a 40mp Hasselblad and the blad smoked it 5 ways to Sunday. That said, 95% shooters would be more than satisfied with a M43 such as the Oly or really any other mirrorless system available today. Oly does seem to be at the top of the list currently possibly because of their lens assortment available for the E-P systems and because of some amazing marketing. I read a few weeks ago about the Samsung mirrorless cameras and why they have not really taken off in the USA. The general consensus was the lack of marketing and user following. Kind of like Ricoh... IDk, I am no a marketing guru. I used a Samsung for a few hours and it was ok and the images turned out nice.
 

haven

Expedition Leader
My advice is to join a camera club. Most clubs have opportunities for newbies to try out different camera bodies and lenses. A club is also a good way to get a deal on older gear. Local dealers often offer substantial discounts to club members, too.
 

john101477

Photographer in the Wild
Local dealers often offer substantial discounts to club members, too.
That's for sure. One of the clubs around here is run by a small camera store. He gives them pretty cool deals but I do not believe he is an authorized dealer of the major brands either.
 

LR Max

Local Oaf
My advice is to join a camera club. Most clubs have opportunities for newbies to try out different camera bodies and lenses. A club is also a good way to get a deal on older gear. Local dealers often offer substantial discounts to club members, too.

This is true. Clubs are great for new comers. I've always found the meetings to be useless but the photowalks are great because they force you to get out and shoot. You can observe and see what everyone else is doing and formulate your own ideas.

That said, be careful. There are a lot of people that prey on those clubs with their events and deals. Kinda sad but I've seen it in three different cities. Often times the claim to be professionals or event organizers or something like that. Definitely listen to what they have to say but be careful of the catch.

During photowalks, the people standing there saying, "I can't make this work, I need help", move away from them. Seek out the person that looks the oddest and standing by themselves. They typically see something no one else is. Usually they are way in front or way behind the crowd.

On the flipside if you see a guy with an old school medium or full format camera, a pipe, and a beard, go talk to him.

Camera stores are great if you are in a pinch but buying equipment online is the way to go, including used equipment. That said, my local camera shop usually has a lot of great used stuff.
 

ywen

Explorer
M43 does have some definite traits that might draw the OP but to say that it takes better images is false.

My statement was factual... the D3100 IQ is junk compared to the latest M43 sensor. D3100 is junk even compared to older M43 sensors under certain conditions.

this ain't 2004 anymore, sensor size is no longer the overwhelming factor in IQ

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I'm looking to finally pick up a good camera and not the cheap 100 dollar Walmart special. From what I've read the Nikon d3100 is a go to camera, everything thing you need.

Bt I'm new to all this. No idea what I'm looking for, just want a great camera to take great pictures and something that'll last for years of useable. Can you help guide me?

"Good camera" is a very ambiguous statement. Maybe you should be a bit more specific about your goals and budget? The Nikon D3100 is around $450 with a lens package? Will you be diving into photography or you just want better quality pics? I think nowadays SLR's are not necessary for great pics. (BTW I am most definitely not even at amateur level, but I am serious about getting better).

There are some point and shoots out there taking mind blowing shots. There are also some amazing mirrorless cameras out there that might be worth a look.

Budget is key to give you a good answer... IMHO I would not go for the D3100.
 

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