Lots of M1101 trailer questions......

[JordanM/S]

Totally, how big are your tires on the trailer? I've hooked up a friends on my Mitsubishi and he had 35s in it and I have 31s, I utterly hated the fact that it looked bigger than my rig. I love the way the 416's looks but they are just too darn expensive, cheapest I've found was 1500+ for stock 416 or the m100. I've found 3 ton army trailers or around 500 to 1000 but their stock tires are like 35s or 37s? Also 3 tons, that's way overkill for a something jeep size like my montero sport. But I guess a 3 ton would work well with a power wagon. Those trucks are huge!


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[RagnarD]

I think 1101/1102 are fine behind most vehicles larger than a small jeep. The OP did specify his tow vehicle and I think it will be fine. As noted, most builds are bolt on/wheel change stuff. As long as you are fine with the size and height they would make a fine platform to build on. If my Tundra was lifted I would have kept my 1102.

Fresno has posted the prices for his toppers in his thread (post 101).

http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...er-Hummer-Trailer-Build?p=1363942#post1363942

 

[LIVINTALL]

Totally, how big are your tires on the trailer? I've hooked up a friends on my Mitsubishi and he had 35s in it and I have 31s, I utterly hated the fact that it looked bigger than my rig. I love the way the 416's looks but they are just too darn expensive, cheapest I've found was 1500+ for stock 416 or the m100. I've found 3 ton army trailers or around 500 to 1000 but their stock tires are like 35s or 37s? Also 3 tons, that's way overkill for a something jeep size like my montero sport. But I guess a 3 ton would work well with a power wagon. Those trucks are huge!


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It is on the original 37"tires

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[TwinStick]

Thanks again everyone. I really appreciate the help & replies. My truck will have ZERO issues pulling this. It won't even know it is back there...compared to our 30' Toy Hauler's 10,500 lbs (which it pulls with ZERO issues as well). I am going with a 2" lift & 35's on our truck. Will also go to 35's on trailer when the factory rubber wears out. I think my stock 08' Power Wagon rims will be a direct bolt on fit for the trailer as well. 17" x 8" w/6.25" back spacing, 8 x 6.5" bolt pattern. ?????????????? I am also looking at the rear 2 stabilizer points to design a 2 bike (bicycle) carrier that will let me just leave both the tires on, yet be uber secure (theft proof & highway proof--my test for my stuff is 80 mph to a dead stop as fast as the vehicle will stop, with zero movement). This un-scientific test has served me well all my life. Panic stops are a non-issue if my gear hold downs pass my test.

I started this thread because i feel we are in a transition period from old to new/est, with Gov. surplus trailers. LOTS of people i know are looking hard but no one really knows what all you can do with them or to them.

I wonder what that big topper weighs with all the goodies plus the rack ? Do you think maybe 4 guys could remove it by hand, reasonably safely ?

Lets keep this thread going please.

 

[Mark Harley]

The M1101 and M1102 trailers have a 8 on 6.5 bolt pattern. Matching wheels to a Dodge 2500, 3500 will fit.
Ford and Now GM have gone to a Metric pattern " I guess the they got a kick back from the wheel makers "

The 1101 and 1102 look good behind full size trucks they are wide but don't stick out past the mirrors. " your mirrors clear so does the trailer"

 

[Mark Harley]

One simple change to make them more user friendly is to replace the 37" military beadlock wheels and tires with smaller 8 bolt wheels and shorter tires.
It looks a little lost in the fender opening but a custom arched skirt would make it look more proportional.

 

[Yuccahead]

I have an 1101 as well. I've been mulling over some ideas but still not exactly sure where to start so it would be great to see how you proceed.

I have a 4-door Jeep and I think it will work fine as is though I have considered switching to smaller wheels/tires. Half of the time, I think just loading it up with some water/fuel Scepter cans, dry goods, an Arkpak, disc-o-beds and a better (ventilated, skylight) cover than the GI tarp and it would have a very rugged off road camper for when I need to put more animals than just me in the Jeep. Other times, I want to build out something fancy like an AT trailer with creature comforts like drawers and sleeping platforms and built in water tanks for showers and maybe a fold-up roof operated by a large hamster wheel powered by my dog chasing a plush toy.

I too would love to know how garwhal came up with that shorter tarp. I have the tarp on mine and it's just too tall. I emailed one tarp customizer and think I just scared them off with my request.

For anybody that feels they need an M1101, there are a bunch (90+) at Ft. Bliss in an auction ending later this week, I think 6/19/14. Most seem to be graded B. Some have the tan tarps. Prices seem to have fallen a bit and were around $500 w/o a tarp and near $700 with a tarp at the last auction but with this many trailers up for sale at once, prices may be (a bit?) lower. There is a 10% buyers premium.

YH

 

[TwinStick]

So, what is the form called that you need to register these things ? Certificate of origin ? XX-60 ? What do i need when purchasing one ?

I do NOT want to buy one & find out i got screwed & can't register it in NY.

Thanks for the replies.

 

[LIVINTALL]

It's an SF97 form. Depending on what demil code they assign to the lot, it may also require an approved EUC (end user certificate) before picking it up.

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[TwinStick]

So then, exactly what are all the form/s or certificates & paperwork I HAVE TO HAVE before leaving with trailer ? Don't want to forget anything.

SF-97
End users certificate
???


Thanks

 

[LIVINTALL]

I guess i should have asked where are buying from. I purchased mine through govliqudation.com so this applies to this method purchase. If a EUC is required then that will need to be applied for and approved before you can get the trailer. After you take possession then you can apply for the SF-97. I just scheduled my appointment for pick up. Showed them my invoice and drove off with the trailer after a through inspection. It can take 30 days to get my SF-97. While I was waiting, I got a temporary registration. After the SF-97 arrived, I went and got my title and registration. Here is my experience with the recovery of my trailer.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/other-builds/328169-m1101-surplus-trailer-camp-rig-build.html

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[Yuccahead]

It's been a while since I picked up my M1101 trailer but if I remember correctly, Gov't Liquidators will not send out an SF-97 until after the vehicle was removed from their site.

I provided a copy of the purchase invoice, inflated the tires and drove mine off the base. Later, when I tried to get an SF97, Govt Liq told me I wouldn't really need one since Texas doesn't require trailers with a GVW of under 4000 lbs to be titled. Instead of the SF97, GL sent me a bill of sale.

Later, I checked the trailer regulations. I do not need to register it in Texas. Also, trailers under 4000 lbs GVW weight do not have to lights during the day so I wasn't doing anything illegal driving it home (though I hooked up some HF temporary trailer lights). Finally, I didn't need an end-user certificate for the M1101.

I'd say, just go to you state DMV website and check your state's regulations for trailers for the GVW of whichever you are buying (M1101/2). In Texas anyway, there is a clear advantage to having an M1101 since it's identical to an M1102 except the GVW on the data plate means it doesn't have to be registered.

 

[TwinStick]

Thank you. The one i am looking at is from a small business/private owner, who is the person that purchased it from the Army Base/Gov't .

 

[garwhal]

On the question of how I lowered my bows. I took the bars and cut them to the height that I wanted. I send my tarp back to New York to have it cut and re-stitched. The tarp is very solid and I wanted to preserve the look. It also reduced the wind drag for towing. The trailer tows like a dream behind my suburban and dodge. I have 4 kids so bigger vehicles is mandatory right now. Camp is a little messy. We were getting setup- lol.

 

[E Dr. P]

Thank you. The one i am looking at is from a small business/private owner, who is the person that purchased it from the Army Base/Gov't .

Make sure if you need a title for your state, that the seller gives you the title, not the SF-97. The SF-97 is only applicable to the original buyer from the government (who then has to get a title) and will be of no use to you.