Lumpskie's 1989 Grand Wagoneer Build

ExplorerTom

Explorer
Thanks Tom! Hey, it looks like you're in my neck of the woods!

Yep. That parking lot Meet'n'greet was like a mile from my old house. And I currently live in Highlands Ranch.

Also, the world gets a little smaller. In those pics of that Meet'n'greet you'll see a blue J-10 with no doors. Here's a pic of one of my first 4wheeling trips:

The owner is my roommate from college and longtime friend.
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
Yep. That parking lot Meet'n'greet was like a mile from my old house. And I currently live in Highlands Ranch.

Also, the world gets a little smaller. In those pics of that Meet'n'greet you'll see a blue J-10 with no doors. Here's a pic of one of my first 4wheeling trips:

The owner is my roommate from college and longtime friend.

That's funny! That truck is kind of famous in the FSJ world too. Hey, let me know if you go out and hit any trails. It would be fun to see that Explorer of yours in action.
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
Estes Park, Colorado

So, my wife actually approached me about wheeling a couple of weeks ago! She said "Why don't we go up to Estes Park for the weekend and try an easy trail or two?" That sounded great to me so we packed up and hit the road. The forecast said that there would be snow up in the mountains but that the lower elevations wouldn't get snow until the following week.

As we approached Estes Park, we could see the weather up in the peaks:


After arriving in town, we took a little detour to play near the lake



The wind was really picking up and piling the ice up along the shore



I snapped another picture of the mountains. It looked like the weather was getting closer



But it was still sunny down at the lake so we continued to play for a bit







After about 30 minutes or so, we decided to check in at the hotel. We were staying at the Discovery Lodge, a family owned, log built motel from the 60s. The room was awesome. It was big, full of log furniture and even had a nice fireplace. I liked having the big windows to look out of as well.



After getting settled, we walked around downtown Estes Park and called it a night.
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
We were excited the next morning because we had our breakfast to look forward to. Once we got up, we headed over to "Donut Haus" for some donuts and coffee. The donuts there are amazing.



After a relaxing breakfast, it was time to do a little exploring. So we packed up and headed out of town. Being the end of January, most of the trails were snowed in or closed. But, we found a cool little trail to explore. It was FS 330 also known as Bright Trail and it topped out at only 8800 ft, so it wasn't totally snowed in.




The trail started out a little muddy with long sections of 4" deep mud. After about a quarter mile we came to a open area and stopped for a snack.



After that we headed farther up the trail. It's an easy trail but it did have some fun sections where I actually got out to check for clearance. We dragged the mud flaps but never got close to scraping anything.




As we climbed higher we got into some snow. I hopped out just to see how deep it was and noticed that the center of the trail was just reaching the bottom of the front diff.


We stopped and explored on foot a bit.



It turns out that there is a neat overlook right off the trail here. Unfortunately, it had begun to snow and the view of Long's Peak was obscured. Still it was a beautiful place to be.





After that, we continued on a little way to the end of the trail. I was hoping to get a chance to use my TREDs but the Waggy never skipped a beat in the snow.



Heading back, Wifey drove the whole way!


We aired back up and explored some of the small towns in the area. Here's a neat Catholic Church that we passed.


We stopped at a marker for Enos A. Mills, the "father of Rocky Mountain National Park". Apparently this was the site of his homestead.



I could see a cabin tucked back in the trees but I don't know if it is his old cabin:


After that, it was time to head home. It wasn't a real "adventure" but it was a fun couple of days!


That's all for now!
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
Well, I'm finally dropping the Jeep off at the body shop today. But, it looks like I'll be getting a rusty spot on the driver's side front quarter panel fixed before my dent. Hopefully, the cost isn't going to hurt me too badly but I'm not holding my breath. (since the rust is behind the wood grain and I want to save it)
 

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
I'm not sure if i envy or pity you for having a wife that enjoys driving the wag! Mine hates it and damn near refuses....but I'm not sure i'd want the competition if she did like it!

but then again yours probably drives like a somewhat normal vehicle.
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
I'm not sure if i envy or pity you for having a wife that enjoys driving the wag! Mine hates it and damn near refuses....but I'm not sure i'd want the competition if she did like it!

but then again yours probably drives like a somewhat normal vehicle.

Haha, yeah... I'm in a unique situation. My wife was the one that actually wanted to get a Wagoneer before I did and it's almost her daily driver during the week. (we've put 15k on in so far!) But, since she drives it during the week, she's happy to let me drive on our trips. So it kind of works out. And you're right, it drives pretty much like any other car. Other than choke/high idle to start on cold days, it's almost modern feeling.

How does yours feel when driving? Do you have to be careful of vaporlock on long hills? Do the 33s bog it down a bit?
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
So, I knew that rust was bubbling up my wood grain but I didn't realize how big the problem was. Carl (doing the body work) said that the rust had basically turned the wood grain to paper and that the rust spot was 5" in diameter. He said the problem started at a rivet, where the back side wasn't corrosion preventative prepped. So, he had to remove some wood grain, paint and protect the underlying sheet metal... and now he'll have to replace the wood grain.

I forgot to get a "before" picture, but rust stain was running down the panel. Here's the state of the waggy today:



Here's the repaired and painted sheet metal. He's going to use a heat gun to reform the trim before placing new wood grain under.


I had some 3m wood grain but the color is off. Carl says he can tint under it to try to make the color match. I'm a little skeptical but he seems fairly confident he can get it to look good:


Hopefully, this whole project turns out right... we'll see by the end of the week!
 

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
Haha, yeah... I'm in a unique situation. My wife was the one that actually wanted to get a Wagoneer before I did and it's almost her daily driver during the week. (we've put 15k on in so far!) But, since she drives it during the week, she's happy to let me drive on our trips. So it kind of works out. And you're right, it drives pretty much like any other car. Other than choke/high idle to start on cold days, it's almost modern feeling.

How does yours feel when driving? Do you have to be careful of vaporlock on long hills? Do the 33s bog it down a bit?

mine feels like driving a 43 year old truck. hit the gas and the brakes early if you want anything to happen. I have all but eliminated any vapor lock issues with reworking the fuel system. I regularly go on trips that are several hours and hundreds of miles long up through the sierras. Its not bad on its own with the 33's, but I dont really have anything to compare it to, never drove it stock. When i have the camper, things are a bit slower. Still powers around town at 70 if I want, but hills and mountain passes get slow.
 

Zeiderman

Adventurer
So, I knew that rust was bubbling up my wood grain but I didn't realize how big the problem was. Carl (doing the body work) said that the rust had basically turned the wood grain to paper and that the rust spot was 5" in diameter. He said the problem started at a rivet, where the back side wasn't corrosion preventative prepped. So, he had to remove some wood grain, paint and protect the underlying sheet metal... and now he'll have to replace the wood grain.

I forgot to get a "before" picture, but rust stain was running down the panel. Here's the state of the waggy today:



Here's the repaired and painted sheet metal. He's going to use a heat gun to reform the trim before placing new wood grain under.


I had some 3m wood grain but the color is off. Carl says he can tint under it to try to make the color match. I'm a little skeptical but he seems fairly confident he can get it to look good:


Hopefully, this whole project turns out right... we'll see by the end of the week!
So I don't see how it would be physically possible to stain underneath as that is a solid sticker, as in not opaque, in which case I could see that working. Enough of that though......the trim pieces look immaculate, did you clean them with something, and if so what?

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lumpskie

Independent Thinker
So I don't see how it would be physically possible to stain underneath as that is a solid sticker, as in not opaque, in which case I could see that working. Enough of that though......the trim pieces look immaculate, did you clean them with something, and if so what?

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Hey Zeiderman,

I just cleaned them with soap and water. But they were in good shape when I bought the Jeep. On the stickers, apparently they are translucent. So Carl says he was able to get the color pretty close. That being said, it won't be perfect, between the color and the fact that Carl had to try to match the wood grain. He said it came out pretty good and you shouldn't be able to tell from 3 feet away. The Jeeps done and I'll pick it up tonight. I hope it turned out well... the suspense is killing me!
 

Zeiderman

Adventurer
Interesting, can't wait to see as well. I'm still torn with removing the grain or going new, mine's in pretty bad shape.
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
Waggy rust repair complete. I think Carl did a commendable job of matching the new wood grain to the faded stuff. He tinted a bit beneath the patch and got the colors a lot closer. I'm really happy that the rust won't be spreading from here. Now, when it snows, I can just enjoy the Jeep rather than worry about what the mag chloride is doing to the gaping rust spot!

Pictures:




 

Zeiderman

Adventurer
Wow, that is pretty amazing, damn near worthy of a tip, and I'm sure as it bleaches out it will get even closer.
 

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