Gotta say the guys at m.o.a.b. Tell you upfront it's a hobby, I liked there rig at first glance but did not like size cargo room or the we will get it done when we can attitude. Conversely I really liked turtle back but I must of caught Dave on a bad day. Plus I really have a hard time buying from someone who bad mouths compition. You can tell what your rig has as opposed to another politely.
In the end we bought AT Overland Chaser. They took time to show and demonstrate there product , were polite , there well built.
And yes I have had my chaser in some pretty wonky places !
Get what you want I'm sure everyone has an opinion this is just mine .