Maine to James Bay March 2007

paulj

Expedition Leader
RVers, when they want to camp on the cheap, use the parking lot of stores like Walmart. However, there has been a lot of talk (on RV.net) about one of those provinces, New Brunswick I believe, banning that type of camping. Supposedly this was at the behest of commercial campground owners, who thought they were loosing business.

paulj
 

Lost Canadian

Expedition Leader
No parking lot camping for this kid that's for sure.:smilies27 Our only real shelter will be the comfy confines of our Hannibal R.T.T. Preferably opened only when resting upon and overlooking a beautiful vista.
 

Rhode Trip

Adventurer
Sorry, didn't try any Walmarts. Its actually Nova Scotia that has the law against overnight parking. NB and NS are very developed and are like anyplace else for camping. We're self contained, and frequent trailheads which often offer quiet, out of the way spots to overnight. I don't call it camping...I have a backpack for that. Newfoundland is more relaxed, and has a tradition of camping "in the pits"...gravel pits left from road construction. Its easier to find spots here. Gros Morne is fantastic, anyway, and with the fishing economy devastated and now reliant on tourism, I really don't begrudge the local folks the few bucks it costs to camp there. Labrador is wide open and very relaxed. You'll find plenty of spots there. I mentioned Muskrat Falls as my favorite, though.
Regards,
Jim
 

Lost Canadian

Expedition Leader
That's pretty much what I figured. One of my good friends is from Lunenburg NS. He had said that we would be hard pressed to find anywhere aside from parks to camp at in NS and NB. NF I wasn't so sure about but I had figured that Labrador would be pretty much wide open.

Thanks so much again.
 

mike h

Adventurer
Rhode Trip - that is essentially the route I took as well. We did it in late June, and the ferries were EMPTY. We had made reservations, and sleeping berths, but there were less than 100 people on board. It was nice, but kind of spooky. I should put up a webpage about the trip one of these days.

We were surprised to find some parks closed in Nova Scotia, as they use July 1 as an opening date. We spent a day at Louisborg, which was impressive.

http://fortress.uccb.ns.ca/

Once in Gros Morne, we camped a few nights at Trout River in a Parks Canada site, and only three other cars were there. The showers were HOT, and so clean - they really exceeded our expectations. There was a fellow van camping on a sweet overlook near Trout River.

Enroute north, in Labrador, we spent 3 nights at Battle Harbour, a Labrador island, which was fantastic. No bugs!

http://www.battleharbour.com/home/

The Trans-lab does have many places you could pull over and camp. No problems there. We chose to push through to Lab City and get a hotel, as that was a rainy stretch for us. It seemed legal to throw down a roadside camp wherever you wanted in NF and Labrador. I did see a few trucks set-up in gravel pits, not exactly scenic. Not many choices off the roadside - it's all bog, Canadian Shield, wetlands - not many dry, open prairie fields like you may find in the midwest.

We did not see any whales, although we're told it is common on the Blanc Sabon ferry. No icebergs either - a sign of the times.

The Walmarts took us by surprise - dissapointing. Fermont is worth exploring. The scale of the strip mining is staggering. Tim Hortons becomes a welcome lifeline. The manic 5 hydro series is great, and that road is neat - I gotta go back on my motorcycle from the St Lawrence north, what a great stretch of twisty pavement.

We returned via Baie Comeau, which we did not have a reservation on because we really didn't know what day we would exit. We made the ferry on stand-by, but barely. Then we spent a day traversing the Gaspe on dirt roads, along the International Appalachian Trail, which was also great fun. Gotta go back there as well.

Met a few guys on dual sport motorcycles doing the loop, and a few on bicycle. That is a hard pitch - I have no desire to pedal my way across the Trans-Lab, but more power to them.
 

Rhode Trip

Adventurer
Mike, I checked out your website...very cool...I have your Maine AT map in my collection!
The HV/GB ferry was the only crowded one we encountered...wish I had known to reserve a berth, had to sleep on the floor.
Bugs were not bad in August.They're worse in Maine! Trout River was the same when we were there, only a couple of vehicles. There was no one else at Green Point when we stayed there...in the wind and the rain. Gros Morne was not crowded at all, which suited me fine.
We spent 5 days on the Trans-Lab, mainly just on short rambles out into the backcountry, slow going in that landscape and no trails to follow. Drove up aways towards Esker, but got concerned about fuel so we didn't go all the way. Next trip I guess.
Good luck on your trip to James Bay, please post about your experiences.
If anyone has information about diesel sources on the Trans-Taiga, please let me know. Is it for sale at Hydro Quebec installations, or only for HQ vehicles?
 

Lost Canadian

Expedition Leader
After you leave Radisson there is a fueling station at around KM 300 on the Trans-Taiga, I can't remember if they sold diesel however. After that there were no other spots to stop for fuel. Not sure what kind of range you have but it's a little over 660 km to the northern tip of the road. We had to use the extra fuel we brought. I have a Hydro-Quebec number for visitor information if you would like, they may be able to help give you some definitive answers. It's 1-800-291-8486.
 

Rhode Trip

Adventurer
Thanks Trevor. Any more than 350 miles for me is really pushing it...I've got that big honkin' 1 ton truck and with the diesel, you need to keep a sufficient reserve. I'm thinking I might invest in a small trailer to extend my range... I'll check with Hydro Quebec, too. Thanks!
 

Lost Canadian

Expedition Leader
I just read my last post and want to clarify, when I said about 660 KM to the end of the road I meant the road is about 660 KM start to finish. If you can fill up with diesel at that last stop on the Trans-Taiga, around KM 300, you should be OK with just having to pack up a jerry can or two of extra fuel.

Cheers.
 

Rhode Trip

Adventurer
Nova Scotia...not so good for remote camping, but here's a tasty treat:

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:chowtime:
 

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