You have to excuse me, where I'm from jeep guys doesn't have a good reputation. Lots of trails has been closed because and patrolled by the police on ATVs because, somehow, it seems that every wrangler owner feels like they own the forest and leave trash behind and destroy nature. I saw that kind of attitude within the title and it opened a can of worm.
That's the reputation that the "bro truck" guys (Over-lifted and loud muffler-ed trucks) have here. But they don't get on the trails, it's teens on ATVs that get the trails closed.
I must say that I disagree with what this thread seems to be about. The levels of brand vs brand aggression in the automobile enthusiast community is my least favorite thing about said community. This forum is probably the least bad about that, but it is still here. That being said, I do think that Jeep has really stepped up in the expedition community with the JK. I have noticed them several times outside of the US, and on this forum there are some really nice Jeeps for expedition purposes, even some TJs and other 2-doors. (mine, of course, is the best example of this. /sarc) The point is to enjoy your vehicle and the adventure, no matter what and where that is. All vehicles have advantages and disadvantages for adventure.
I love my Jeep, I like Jeep's history, I like the simpleness, the spartan features, and the ruggedness. I actually like the noise, the poor ride, and the lack of space most of the time. I am a Jeep guy. But I have considered trading it for a Toyota, and while i decided to wait until I can eventually afford a JK I still would consider a Toyota a good platform, a better one in many ways.
